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Okolo, director of the U.S. Artificial Safety Institute (AISI) Elizabeth Kelly, and Cognizant CEO Ravi Kumar S, discussed the transformative power of AI during a panel at a TIME100 Impact Dinner in San Francisco on Monday._ by [Pranav Dixit](https://time.com/author/pranav-dixit/) ## Pranav Dixit Sep 17, 2024 4:55 AM UTC Inventor and futurist Ray Kurzweil, researcher and Brookings Institution fellow Chinasa T. Okolo, director of the U.S. Artificial Safety Institute (AISI) Elizabeth Kelly, and Cognizant CEO Ravi Kumar S, discussed the transformative power of AI during a panel at a TIME100 Impact Dinner in San Francisco on Monday. by [Pranav Dixit](https://time.com/author/pranav-dixit/) ## Pranav Dixit Sep 17, 2024 4:55 AM UTC Inventor and futurist Ray Kurzweil, researcher and Brookings Institution fellow Chinasa T. Okolo, director of the U.S. Artificial Safety Institute (AISI) Elizabeth Kelly, and Cognizant CEO Ravi Kumar S, discussed the transformative power of AI during a panel at a [TIME100 Impact Dinner](https://time.com/7021125/time100-impact-dinner-ai-amba-kak-king-willonius-lisa-su/) in San Francisco on Monday. During the discussion, which was moderated by TIME’s editor-in-chief Sam Jacobs, Kurzweil predicted that we will achieve Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a type of AI that might be smarter than humans, by 2029\. “Nobody really took it seriously until now,” Kurzweil said about AI. “People are convinced it’s going to either endow us with things we’d never had before, or it’s going to kill us.” Cognizant sponsored Monday’s event, which celebrated the 100 most influential people leading change in AI. The [TIME100 AI](https://time.com/collection/time100-ai-2024/) spotlights computer scientists, business leaders, policymakers, advocates, and others at the forefront of big changes in the industry. Jacobs probed the four panelists—three of whom were named to the 2024 list—about the opportunities and challenges presented by AI’s rapid advancement. Kumar discussed the potential economic impact of generative AI and cited a [new report](https://www.cognizant.com/en%5Fus/insights/documents/new-work-new-world-with-generative-ai-wf2064768.pdf) from Cognizant which says that generative AI could add more than a trillion dollars annually to the US economy by 2032\. He identified key constraints holding back widespread adoption, including the need for improved accuracy, cost-performance, responsible AI practices, and explainable outputs. “If you don’t get productivity,” he said, “task automation is not going to lead to a business case stacking up behind it.” [Okolo](https://time.com/7012894/chinasa-t-okolo/) highlighted the growth of AI initiatives in Africa and the Global South, citing the work of professor Vukosi Marivate from the University of Pretoria in South Africa, who has inspired a new generation of researchers within and outside the continent. However, Okolo acknowledged the mixed progress in improving the diversity of languages informing AI models, with grassroots communities in Africa leading the charge despite limited support and funding. [Kurzweil](https://time.com/7012871/ray-kurzweil/) said that he was excited about the potential of simulated biology to revolutionize drug discovery and development. By simulating billions of interactions in a matter of days, he noted, researchers can accelerate the process of finding treatments for diseases like cancer and Alzheimer’s. He also provided a long-term perspective on the exponential growth of computational power, predicting a sharper so-called S-curve (a slow start, then rapid growth before leveling off) for AI disruption compared to previous technological revolutions. **Read more:** [_The TIME100 Most Influential People in AI 2024_](https://time.com/collection/time100-ai-2024/) [Kelly](https://time.com/7012783/elizabeth-kelly/) addressed concerns about AI’s potential for content manipulation in the context of the 2024 elections and beyond. “It’s going to matter this year, but it’s going to matter every year more and more as we move forward,” she noted. She added that AISI is working to advance the science to detect synthetically created content and authenticate genuine information. Kelly also noted that lawmakers have been focusing on AI’s risks and benefits for some time, with initiatives like the AI Bill of Rights and the AI Risk Management Framework. “The president likes to use the phrase ‘promise and peril,’ which I think pretty well captures it, because we are incredibly excited about stimulant biology and drug discovery and development while being aware of the flip side risks,” she said. As the panel drew to a close, Okolo urged attendees, which included nearly 50 other [past](https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/) and present TIME100 AI honorees, to think critically about how they develop and apply AI and to try to ensure that it reaches people in underrepresented regions in a positive way. “A lot of times you talk about the benefits that AI has brought, you know, to people. And a lot of these people are honestly concentrated in one region of the world,” she said. “We really have to look back, or maybe, like, step back and think broader,” she implored, asking leaders in the industry to think about people from Africa to South America to South Asia and Southeast Asia. “How can they benefit from these technologies, without necessarily exploiting them in the process?” _The TIME100 Impact Dinner: Leaders Shaping the Future of AI was presented by Cognizant and Northern Data Group._ ## Transcript [00:00] Thank you for joining us. [00:01] Welcome again to our second ever T 100 Impact dinner, [00:06] celebrating the leaders shaping the future of AI. [00:10] Few stories have captivated our news room or our reader's attention like AI. [00:17] Our purpose in creating the T 100 AI is to foster [00:21] a dialogue between leaders and to share their perspectives with Ts readers. [00:27] This list, in particular, [00:30] highlights the possibilities of AI as it transitions from the lab into the real world. [00:37] As Jess mentioned, 91 out of 100 names on this series cohort are new. [00:42] While many of those already featured continue to drive large scale innovation. [00:48] We believe it's equally important to uncover [00:52] the lesser known stories of those shaping our future. [00:56] Before we begin, I want to thank once again, [00:58] our outstanding team of editors and [01:01] correspondents for their diligent work on this project, [01:04] led by Emma Barker and Isha Javed. [01:06] They spent months interviewing sources, [01:09] consulting last year's list to identify [01:11] the hundred most influential individuals in the world of AI. [01:16] Thank you very much. It is now my pleasure to introduce tonight's panel. [01:26] We will hear from Cognizant CEO Ravi Kumar S, [01:29] along with three of our 2024 T 100 AI nares. [01:35] Janasa Tio Colo, fellow at [01:37] the Center for Technology Innovation at the Brookings Institute. [01:41] Elizabeth Kelly, Director of the US Artificial Intelligence Safety Institute, [01:47] and Ray Kurtz Wile, [01:48] Inventor, futurist, and author. [01:52] Please join me in welcoming them as we dive into the transformative power of AI. [02:03] Ray, I hope you don't mind if we begin with you. [02:07] Sounds good. Good. Thank you all again for being here. [02:11] It is an absolute pleasure to hear your perspectives. [02:14] Ray, you told me at dinner that you've been working on AI for 61 years. [02:19] Pretty amazing. Nobody knew what artificial intelligence was at that time. [02:24] I'd say I'm involved in artificial intelligence. [02:27] I'd say, what is that? [02:30] That began to change maybe three years ago. [02:35] Now, everybody has heard about AI. [02:39] Whether you're a teamster or head of a union or your teacher. [02:47] Everybody's heard of AI, [02:49] and everybody has an opinion on it. [02:51] What is it like to have the whole world take [02:54] notice to something that you've been working on for a very long time? [02:57] Yeah. Several people have asked me that today. [03:03] I mean, I exist in the future, [03:07] so I take I don't know. [03:14] To me, it was always very real. [03:16] And I was actually convinced we would end up where we are today at this time. [03:24] Um But for most people, [03:28] it was like something that's very abstract. [03:35] Nobody really took it seriously. [03:38] Until now, and people are convinced it's going to [03:44] either endow us with things we've never had before or it's going to kill us. [03:53] But no one's really thought about it until recently. [04:00] I'm speaking of something unprecedented, [04:02] Elizabeth, with apologies, let's talk about the election. [04:06] You've raised alarms around AI's ability to support content manipulation. [04:12] How are you seeing that play out in the 2024 campaign? [04:15] And what should we be watching for? [04:18] So I have to give my usual hatchak disclosures. [04:22] But I think that anyone who is watching the news is [04:27] seeing synthetic content come to play not only in elections, [04:33] but as we think about the harms to young women and girls. [04:37] It's a big year, right? [04:38] There's 74 global elections. [04:41] It's not just the US that has elections, [04:43] and so I You know, [04:45] the work that we're really doing at the Safety Institute is figuring out, [04:48] how can we help advance the science so that regardless of what the harm is, [04:53] we're able to have the tools we need to detect, [04:57] synthetically created content, to authenticate content, to know what's real, [05:01] to know what's not, because it's going to matter this year, [05:04] but it's going to matter every year more and more as we move forward. [05:08] Are you finding that there are ways to more [05:11] or most effectively communicate about this risk to people? [05:14] So I think there's an interesting question of, [05:18] sort of, at what point does it flip? [05:20] Is it that people assume that an image is true, [05:24] and you have to sort of watermark it and say, [05:27] No, this is actually false? [05:28] Or do we eventually start authenticating everything that is true? [05:33] Like, for example, as you think about content that perhaps, [05:37] the president of the United States is giving a remark, [05:40] So would you include, you know, [05:43] in the camera, actually, something that would say, [05:45] This was in fact the President giving remarks at this point in time? [05:48] And that's actually some of the work that we're doing as well is working [05:51] across the government with Office of Management and budget to figure out, [05:54] how can the government make sure people trust what we're saying? [05:59] Rabbi Cognizant new work New World report suggests that generative AI [06:05] could grow the US economy by up to $1,000,000,000,000 by 20th two. [06:10] But you've said that you've talked to many executives that are [06:13] still wary of adopting it. What's holding them back? [06:17] So, uh, to first of all, I think, [06:21] uh, For enterprise landscapes. [06:26] The starting point is at least where AI has advanced so far is task level automation. [06:34] And then progressively, you get to changing process, [06:37] and then you get to changing business models. [06:40] So a lot of fit which is happening is around tasks, [06:43] and automation of tasks. [06:45] And the productivity studies, in fact, [06:47] that study, we went to 2,200 corporations. [06:52] 45% of the use cases are related to task led automation to start with. [07:00] Now, what are the constraints on the way? [07:03] Back in Cognizant, we are already doing like 1,000 plus prototypes with clients, [07:09] but very few go to the finishing line on production. [07:13] And I'll probably highlight a few. [07:15] To start with, I think the accuracy of the models, [07:19] which generate the output the quality of that output is still not up there. [07:27] The fact that a lot of the work is now [07:31] moving from large language models to agent based work. [07:35] I think you want to see more accuracy of the models. [07:38] Cost performance imperatives are still a question mark. [07:43] In fact, in the last 15 months, [07:47] the cost performance imperatives have actually, [07:49] I mean, the cost performance has doubled. [07:51] So you're going to see progress there. [07:53] So that's an impediment. [07:56] U responsible AI, which is a combination of trust, safety and equity. [08:05] I mean, most technologies of the past, [08:07] safety and equity was taken care of. [08:09] Trust was not as much needed. [08:12] Trust is very important because you're generating new output which doesn't exist. [08:18] So tying that to these three things, [08:21] I think is important constraint, [08:25] if I may, to get there. [08:26] Traceability and explainability of [08:30] the output is a very important constraint constraint on the way. [08:35] I mean explainability of the output, which is, [08:37] in some ways a little black box is a opportunity to look for skiing and productivity. [08:47] I mean, if I actually automate task, [08:50] what is the human endeavor? [08:52] Say, for example, if if I'm a teller of a bank. [08:55] Here are a bunch of tasks I do. [08:57] So that study, which we did, [08:59] we also looked at exposure scores of all the tasks. [09:03] We took 11,000 tasks, [09:05] and we took 2,200 occupations, [09:07] and we kind of looked at what are the exposure scores. [09:10] And we also looked at what are the friction scores. [09:12] What I mean by friction scores is, [09:14] if you're a teller of a bank, [09:15] you're doing a bunch of tasks, [09:17] what would be the new set of tasks you would do? [09:19] And what's the friction for you to get there? [09:21] I mean, what's the skiing need to get there? [09:24] So the ability to crack that puzzle. [09:28] Of productivity, I think it is very, very important. [09:31] If you don't get productivity out, [09:32] past automation is not going to lead to the business case stacking up behind it. [09:37] So in summary, all of these are steps we want to take. [09:43] And as customers are starting to do this, [09:46] they're going back and they're kind of starting to [09:48] modernize their data infrastructure and [09:50] the cloud infrastructure so that they can come back and actually [09:53] deliver to the promise of AI. [09:57] Janasa, you've been vocal about the fact that [10:01] the AI boom may not benefit everyone equally. [10:05] Are there examples that you see which make you believe that we can [10:09] balance benefits while supporting vulnerable or underrepresented communities? [10:14] Almost definitely. So the biggest disparity I see overall [10:17] in terms of who's developing AI and also gets to benefit from AA. [10:21] I've actually just returned from Senegal where the sixth, [10:25] I believe Deep learning and Daba Conference was held. [10:27] And so this is essentially the largest African sorry, [10:30] AI and Machine learning conference on the African continent. [10:34] And so there's so many innovations happening both locally and also driven by [10:38] Large companies like Google, IBM, and Microsoft, [10:41] but it's really heartening to see how [10:42] this conference has grown over the past couple of years and [10:45] also the many African AI initiatives that have grown in accordance with it. [10:50] And so there's a lot of opportunity that we see within Africa, particularly, [10:53] but also throughout the rest of the Global South [10:55] to help lessen this AI divide that we see. [10:58] Is there a story or a person you met there that has stuck with you? [11:03] No one in particular, honestly, [11:06] but I would just say that there's again, [11:08] just so many people that I had the opportunity to engage with. [11:11] I was at the Till in the bill Conference, [11:12] but I've been following deep learning in Daba for so many years. [11:15] And so I've had the opportunity to interact with one of the founders. [11:18] I'm Vukoi Mera Vat. [11:20] He's a professor at the University of Pretoria. [11:22] I'm in South Africa, and he's been very big in [11:25] leading the African natural ngage processing space as well. [11:28] And so his work has definitely, you know, [11:30] helped inspire essentially a new generation of researchers, [11:33] both within and outside of the continent. [11:35] And so that's someone I definitely look up to within this space. [11:39] Yes, right. [11:41] Well, I think something that's going to affect everyone is simulated biology. [11:47] Right now, if somebody wants to try out something, [11:51] they have some idea that maybe this thing might affect particular cancer, [11:57] let's say a certain type of cancer, [11:59] and they have some history with it, [12:03] and they try it out and it takes three years or five years. [12:07] What we can do instead is simulate biology, [12:11] which we can do very quickly. [12:13] And we can do it in a matter of days rather than years, [12:21] and we can stimulate not just one thing, [12:25] but for example, in cancer, [12:30] we have We can simulate every single thing that might cause that cancer, [12:38] which might be 1 billion different things, [12:40] and we can try out all billion of them with simulation and do that in a matter of days. [12:47] So in a matter of days, we can do what you used to take years to try just a few things. [12:54] We can actually try every possible interaction very quickly. [13:00] And that's going to revolutionize the development of, [13:06] basically everything that we're trying to overcome, [13:10] cancer, Alzheimer, so on. [13:13] We're going to see test There's already some things that are on the market that [13:18] are being tested already that use this simulated biology. [13:23] Elizabeth, do you get the sense that lawmakers are still playing [13:26] catch up when it comes to some of the possibilities that we're talking about, [13:29] but also the risks when it comes to AI? [13:32] Yeah. [13:34] Well, I'll get Elizabeth ray. [13:36] Why don't you jump in if you want to by it? [13:38] I would say that lawmakers have been focused on this for a while. [13:42] I think that there's a bit of a misconception that, for example, [13:45] the executive order was the first thing the Bide administration did on this, [13:48] and it's been a focus from the very beginning. [13:51] You think about the AI Bill of Rights that was [13:53] put out focusing on privacy and discrimination. [13:56] How do we protect Americans? [13:58] The AI risk management framework used by business across the globe. [14:02] That my colleagues at NIST worked on. [14:06] And I think there's a very acute appreciation of both the risk and the benefits. [14:11] The president likes to use the phrase promise and peril, [14:15] which I think pretty well captures it because we are incredibly [14:19] excited about simulant biology and [14:22] drug discovery and development while being aware of the flipside risks. [14:25] And I also think there's been a real focus on how [14:28] do we bring the experts into the government, [14:31] sort of a whole of government talent surge so that we can [14:35] keep pace with this incredibly rapidly developing technology. [14:39] I'll just say one thing that a lot of people are against AI because they think [14:46] it's going to bring possibly fatal flaws to humanity. [14:53] And I'm just waiting till I get something that's actually [14:57] cured by AI that otherwise wouldn't have existed. [15:02] And let's see what their opinion is at that time. [15:05] I think Rabbi, you have a similar challenge. [15:08] You've described generative AI as an equalizer, [15:10] but I think many people don't think about AI as bringing equality to their workplace. [15:15] I think about it, perhaps during the opposite. [15:17] What do you say to people who are afraid of AI when it comes to their work? [15:21] So I certainly think it's an equalizer because if you go back to any tech disruption, [15:27] which has happened in the last 40 or 50 years, [15:30] the access to those technologies was powered by skills. [15:36] And skills in some ways, [15:40] has been powered in four year, I mean, [15:44] undergrad degrees, and it was honestly a big divide. [15:48] I mean, the template of the Industrial Revolution was for the first first 20 to 25 years, [15:55] you go to schools, for the next 50 years you work, and then you retire. [15:59] That template is out of the window. [16:01] That template really created the divide, [16:05] and we draw from the template for the last few tech disruptions. [16:10] And therefore, the access to those jobs, [16:13] good upward mobile jobs was non existent. [16:18] With the advent of AI, [16:20] I actually believe you can actually lend expertise, [16:24] which I mentioned in my remarks. [16:26] You can bridge the gap between occupations, [16:29] you can bridge the gap between and within occupations, [16:34] and you can reduce the entry barrier to specialized jobs. [16:38] Specialized jobs no longer are going to be [16:43] accessible only to people who have actually [16:46] gone through that education pattern. I mean, look at it. [16:49] In the United States, Undergrad education in the last 20 years has gone up by 200%. [16:55] So who has access to those jobs? [16:58] It's only people who go to undergrad schools. [17:00] So this is going to democratize in many ways, skills. [17:05] And the fact that you're going to have expertise on your fingertips, [17:09] you're going to leverage that to create the upward mobility for yourself. [17:13] So it is an equalizer. [17:15] And actually, I've actually seen this in our own statistics of the study you referred to. [17:20] The top 50 percentile of [17:24] knowledge workers gained only 17% productivity and says study we did. [17:32] The bottom 50 percentile gained 37%. [17:36] So you are actually going to bridge that gap, [17:38] and you are going to make sure that the expertise which you can gain out of AI, [17:46] which is actually available on demand. [17:48] The most powerful use is for A. AI is going to be an education. [17:54] Personal tutor. It's going to be the biggest, [17:59] you know, it's going to be the biggest use case. [18:01] So if we can channel that whole thesis, [18:05] I mean, we're going to bridge the divide and it's going to be an equalizer. [18:09] Going back to science and technology which Ray spoke about. [18:12] If you go back to the last, [18:14] I mean, let's take the information age. [18:16] The information age happened in the 90s. [18:20] It happened because semiconductor manufacturing went cheaper and cheaper, [18:25] and it led to a productivity boom. [18:28] But technological advances never actually contributed back to science. [18:35] Science contributed to technology? [18:37] Technology never contributed back to science. [18:39] We're going to see that fly wheel now. [18:41] You want to see improvements in material sciences, [18:44] improvements in biological sciences, [18:47] improvements in chemistry, which took us 50, [18:50] 60 years, that you want to shrink that cycles [18:54] you want to shrink by using AI and pushing [18:56] it back to science and science pushing it back to AI. [18:59] Ganasa Ravi talks about bridging the gap. [19:02] One of the problems that you've worked on is [19:05] the limited diversity of languages that are informing AI models. [19:09] When it comes to bridging that gap, [19:11] are you seeing any signs of improvement? [19:14] It's a bit hard to say just because prominent, let's say, [19:20] general purpose AI systems like CHBT, [19:22] and others don't necessarily represent African languages, particularly very well. [19:26] They have made a lot of progress in Indian languages, fortunately. [19:29] But a lot of this work is being led by Grassroots communities, [19:33] again, that are based within the African continent. [19:35] And so they're having to do this leg work. [19:37] Many of them, you know, without the necessary support and funding [19:41] that is needed to actually scale these innovations and ensure that, [19:44] you know, people can access them equitably. [19:46] And so it's definitely a mixed bag, [19:48] but we have seen a lot of progress, [19:49] especially within the past uro zone. [19:52] Ray, we were talking at dinner, [19:53] and what undergirds all this growth is the exponential growth of computational power. [19:59] I know it's something that you're very excited about. [20:01] I'd love if you could give us [20:02] the kind of century long perspective of what we're witnessing. [20:06] Well, I had a nice graph, which I'll describe. [20:09] It basically goes like this. [20:12] And it started out in 1931. [20:16] The power of a computer was it provided [20:22] 0.00 0007 calculations per second per dollar. [20:30] Now it provides half 1 trillion calculations per second per dollar. [20:36] That's a 75 quadrillion fold increase for the same price. [20:41] And that's why I mean, [20:44] I predicted that we'd have this revolution happening about now in 1999. [20:53] Stanford held a conference thinking that that was an incorrect assumption. [21:01] They had several hundred A experts come to Stanford, [21:08] and they said it would take 100 years for this to happen. [21:12] And most of those now have said that they [21:15] were 25 years was about correct. [21:25] So it's growing exponentially. [21:28] I mean, think about this revolution two years ago. [21:32] It was quite exciting, [21:34] but nothing compared to today with just two years having gone by. [21:39] Think of what it's going to be in two years from now, [21:41] and two years from then. [21:43] We'll have AGI automatic general intelligence, probably by 2029. [21:51] Most people actually think it's going to happen sooner than that, [21:54] but that's only six years from now. [21:57] But it's not going to compete with us. [22:03] It's an alternative to what we can do. [22:07] It's going to add to our capability. [22:10] We're going to merge with it, [22:12] and we're going to become a lot smarter. [22:15] And People who are against that really are against becoming [22:21] smarter because that's what the Revolution is enabling us to do. [22:29] And we'll be able to do things that were never feasible before. [22:34] Now, a lot of that's already happened, [22:37] but it will happen really with all kinds of capabilities by 2029. [22:48] Can I just add one? St quick one. [22:51] I think if you again go back to tech disruptions. [22:56] There's been a S curve on tech disruptions. [23:00] This is going to be a sharper S curve. [23:04] It's going to be a slow takeoff and a short runway. [23:09] And that's because economists when they predict disruptions, [23:14] tech disruptions, they use a diffusion model, [23:17] and they look for constraints coming on the way for diffusion of technology. [23:26] The diffusion is going to be much more efficient this [23:30] time because there's no barrier for skies. [23:35] You're going to access technology. [23:38] I mean, a farmer in rural India can access technology in their own dialect. [23:45] And can do meaningful work. [23:48] It's not information. The previous age was information. [23:51] This is meaningful work by talking in their own natural language. [23:57] So the diffusion is going to be much more efficient. [23:59] The S curve is going to be sharper. [24:00] Elizabeth, we're talking about how fast this change is coming. [24:04] It's also we're seeing how quickly the regulatory environment is changing. [24:08] I read today in vo H erao's new book. [24:12] He says, if a bot pretends to be human, [24:14] it should be banned. Do you agree? [24:19] I think that There [24:23] are many open questions about what the regulatory environment here should look like. [24:28] I think it's not a coincidence that the approach that we have [24:31] taken is that because there's such amazing potential with this technology, [24:36] and we don't want to stifle that innovation, [24:38] we've really set ourselves in sort of an intensive information gathering mission. [24:42] So for the underlying technology, [24:45] it's focused on what is happening, [24:49] keeping an eye on the horizon, [24:50] working with the companies to test the models so that we can be nimble, [24:55] we can be educated, and we can be ready when regulation makes sense at that level. [25:01] Anos, I'm going to give you the last word here. [25:04] What can people in this room do? [25:07] What more can they do to make sure that [25:09] the benefits of AI reach as many people as possible? [25:14] Yeah, this is a very broad question, [25:17] but I think really just being very critical in terms [25:20] of how you're developing AI and also applying it. [25:23] I think a lot of times you talk about the benefits that AI has brought, you know, [25:28] to people, and a lot of these people are honestly [25:30] concentrated in one region of the world. [25:33] And so we really have to look back or maybe, like, [25:36] step back and think broader in terms of how can we assure that, [25:40] you know, people, you know, [25:42] the African continent in South America, [25:45] in South Asia, Southeast Asia. [25:47] How can they been different from these technologies, [25:50] without necessarily exploiting them in the process? [25:52] And so this is something I consider a lot in my work as well. Thank you. [25:56] Ray, Elizabeth, Rabe Canasa. [25:58] Thank you so much for being here. 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