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## Video: Tarana Burke, Anita Hill, and Emily Ratajkowski | Me Too Anniversary

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_Published 2021-10-29. A roundtable conversation with Tarana Burke, Emily Ratajkowski and Anita Hill on resiliency, impact and change._


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## TIME Staff


Oct 29, 2021 6:21 PM UTC

A roundtable conversation with Tarana Burke, Emily Ratajkowski and Anita Hill on resiliency, impact and change. 

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## TIME Staff


Oct 29, 2021 6:21 PM UTC

Emily Ratajkowski wasn’t sure she wanted to write the story of what happened to her on the set of “Blurred Lines.”

Earlier this month, a chapter from Ratajkowski’s forthcoming book, _My Body_, was leaked online. In it, she describes the power dynamics on the set of the music video that launched her to fame in 2013, including a moment when she alleges that Robin Thicke grabbed her breasts without her consent. (A representative of Thicke did not respond to TIME’s request for comment.) Speaking with fellow authors [Anita Hill](https://time.com/5793719/anita-hill-100-women-of-the-year/) and [Tarana Burke](https://time.com/6097392/tarana-burke-me-too-unbound-excerpt/) in a special episode of TIME100 Talks, Ratajkowski shared the trepidation she felt when it came to telling that story. 

“It was not an essay that I wanted to write, because I am familiar with the way that sexual assault allegations—even just the terms ‘sexual assault’ and ‘allegations’—have such weight in our culture. It’s picked up by the media, and it’s turned into clickbait,” she said. “I hope that we live in a world where people will understand that these things are more complicated than what the media \[reports\] and the way that things are perceived online.”

**_Read More:_** [_Emily Ratajkowski: How I Learned to Let Go_](https://time.com/6110120/emily-ratajkowski-my-body-excerpt/)

The author went on to describe the point she hoped to make in the essay. The crew was dominated by women. “Compared to a lot of jobs that I was working at the time as an unknown model, I actually did feel quite comfortable,” she said. “But ultimately, those women on set were not in power.” 

Reflecting on the leak, Ratajkowski also described how she felt when she saw those allegations plucked from the book without the context of the essay. “It was extremely hard for me,” she said. “The importance of having control over your story and your narrative is crucial.” But, she added, another major theme of the book is understanding that control is only possible to a certain extent. 


TIME published the [first official excerpt from _My Body_](https://time.com/6110120/emily-ratajkowski-my-body-excerpt/), in which Ratajkowski writes about her longstanding need to maintain control over herself and her image, and how giving birth to her son proved to be a lesson in letting go. She writes in searing detail about the terror she experienced in labor, before coming to a realization about her body’s strength and resilience: “It knew what to do,” she writes. “I just needed to stay out of the way.”

Watch the full conversation between Ratajkowski, Hill and Burke on TIME100 Talks above.


## Transcript

Hi, I'm X. Senior editor, Lucy, Feldman. And I am honored to be joined today by three incredible. Women Professor, author, and Advocate, Anita Hill me to founder and author, Tarana Burke and author. Emily, Ratajkowski. Welcome to time. 100 talks, everyone. Pleasure to be here. This fall is huge for all of you. You each have a book Toronto and Anita you published Unbound and believing respectively. In September and Emily. You're preparing to publish my body. Your essay collection in November. I would love to start by just talking about the writing process for these books and to hear from each of you.

What was the hardest part for you to write Anita? Should we start with you? Well, let's see. My process really wants to sort of just get up every morning and try to make sure that I put in a good amount of rioting. I'm a mess ewriter app. So I have to do several drafts before. I want anybody to see it. But then the after the restaurant for doubt, everything that I have you do. I start the process and over searching again. So it's a problem. You know, I had a lot of stories in this book that I wanted to make sure it were included. So it's a combination of writing editing by researching and making sure everything comes together.

And make sense. It's funny that you say that you're a writer because you're writing is so clear and organized final results of super interesting. Toronto. How about you? What was the hardest part for you? On my book is a memoir. So it was really difficult to do. So the excavation and I had to do for some parts of it to to go back to places where I hadn't been in my own mind for a long time. If that was hard and it was also hard because a lot of people are right about are alive and here and so knowing that they will read things that make them uncomfortable or, you know, I had to have from those conversations before hand during the writing process.

So that was That was strange and difficult at times but I mean my writing process. I think I'm going to, I'm going to say the same thing either. I had to get it all out in an antenna. I had people helping me to sort it out, but I do know, I wrote all of it and so it was a lot of heaviness. Making sure I had a release so that I could write a little bit and kind of put it, put it down and not, not think about it but like, put it away for a little bit so I can come back to you. Yeah, I am I very much admire Toronto for having those conversations during writing because I had to wait until after I had written because I think you know how being publication in mind would have made the writing process impossible for me because I just really needed to feel like I didn't have any limitations and then I would be able to Just write it out everything without kind of considering other people before I started to edit and then, of course, you know, it was thinking of that.

But I think the excavation I'm definitely riding a messy writers while I write a lot of these essays, kind of would come to me as I would be on the go or couldn't sleep. So they would start as notes in my phone and then eventually, once I had gotten enough down, I would copy paste them into the word document, which helped with the blank page kind of phobia that I have and you know, some of the hardest days but we were the days that I couldn't write it all the days where it's blowing, even if it's bad writing. It feels really good, but I would end up just, you know, turning to two writers. I admire and reading there were on days that I was having blocks.

You know, I really wanted to tap into the intentionality of Toni Morrison's, he had recently passed and, and I brought her writings and I want it. It's supposed to be very intentional and would be very honest with all of her work was empty. Talk about difficult things that I forgot to mention. What was the hardest for me was was writing about gender-based violence than children experience. Being that was hard. It was hard to write about the hearings but you know things happened in 1991 in my life. And so I got nowhere quite a bit of it, but it was also, it was most part two to really know and read and they don't have to Capture the stories of young children, who were abused in schools were sometimes committing suicide, ideating suicide, but I wanted to tell him in a way to be sure that if I was being honest about what, what I was writing, but I also didn't want to trade on their misery.

I wanted people to understand that these situations were difficult that we could learn from them. And what we could learn what ultimately benefit other children and what meaningful intersectionality looks like for each of you. Toronto. Maybe we could start with you. So many people who are looking for community and didn't have that language necessarily when when like me to Enviro, but even before, then when when survivors find each other and even protect legal for me to and we survived found each other, we connected with each other. There is a sense of community and solidarity that we build on, right?

And it's his healing process. And so I think that is sort of a linchpin in any kind of work and it kind of progress happening. But also in terms of intersectionality, which, you know, we kind of knew fluid is leaking out today, but I think that ringing when we have a group of women, I'll just use gender in a reminiscence for the sake of this conversation. We have groups of women that come together week. With lies and many identities. And a lot of times people are only willing to accept one of those things, you know, where all women, and we should just get an organization that prospective or should we shall be in?

Solidarity from that perspective, but that's not nice. That's not reality. Right? Because I'm more than just a woman. I'm a black woman. I'm a black woman. That's a mother. I'm a black woman mother. That's an organizer. I'm a black woman mother from a low Wells Community, right? So they are all kind of identity that I bring to the table. And so I think that and when it relates to sexual violence, Each of those identities are second in different ways. And so if we're going to be in solidarity with each other than people who are claiming to be in community, claiming to want to organize, have to look at the photographs of identities and end in realities of the people who they're wanted to organize with that happen happen all the time.

And I think that's where they've been some struggle. And I'll work with people where it wants to go to Cape Air down to where all women in Nashville, just be why we are in solidarity, and that's just not, it's just not realistic. So, we're seeing some change, the conversation by saying what you have to look at, you know, everybody doesn't identify as a cyst woman or everybody is not from the same community and we have to bring all of that to table, and we bring the issues that are attached that to the table. I think this conversation about it, at least Emily. How do you think about these issues as someone who does activist work as well as all of the other things you do in the public eye.

I mean, I think that you know, Toronto just said so many things that I couldn't agree with more. I don't want to, you know, I just feel that she had kind of everything on the on the head for me. I do think that there is so much we can do as far as a solidarity by feeling like we can I think solidarity in community work hand-in-hand. I think that being able to to tell your story and to share with other people and to be brave enough to do so. And also understanding that your perspective is a very, very specific, no matter who you are and understanding that there isn't a big umbrella that you can just go to say, we're all women.

We haven't even though it is a thing that unites us in many ways. And there are so many over how much overlap they can bring a lot of healing to women. It is also important to keep in mind the communities that we come from the, the world. So, we come from the identities that we that we jug. Bonita for some reason, this conversation and is bringing to mind for me the first cereal piece that we ran from your book in which you talked about your experience with the President Biden and waiting for that apology that came. decades past when it was really do and the The way that you sort of pressed on him, like real meaningful change would be for you to take on ending gender-based violence as new.

Your issue. Tell us a little bit about that in about how we can all push our leadership to do better when it comes to these issues. Well, I took it on and in it and it is actually related to this idea of community. If we just want to think that I wanted to make sure that I included that that in my book, that, you know, 1991 and President Biden, sampling of the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing wasn't just about sexual harassment. It wasn't about me. It wasn't just about me. It wasn't about Clarence Thomas. It was, it was really, it wasn't even about the Senate Judiciary Committee. It was about any number of different kinds of behavior that people have been experiencing.

And that I continue to experience the day that it was about any number of different ways that the behavior example to tell whether it's bullying or harassment in the workplace, or on college campuses. It's whether it's intimate partner violence with violence and on the streets, or in our homes. Issues are bigger than one individual and it was even bigger than Joe Biden, but it's not bigger than the presidency. All of these behaviors are happening right now in our country. They are imperiling individuals and their families and their communities. They are corrupting. Our institutions are universities, being one example.

That even our military, and our workplaces whole sectors, including entertainment industry and have reputations for abusive Behavior. I wanted 1991 had an impact and unleashes conversation about these behaviors and helped us to find the community or a moment. People who deserve to be safe and who hadn't been served by the processes that we have. Now. I want the president to Rice that occasion to rise to that reality of where we are today and to pledge to respond by first of all, week knowledge and got something so much happened. We we acknowledge each other when we leave knowledge each other, thousands of letters and I'm sure all of you.

Each of you will be getting a call from Individual. But we need leadership to acknowledge and to acknowledge what this problem is doing to our country and then bring us into the conversation about how we're going to stop at together. And how much better all of us will be if we do make those different choices. Now than we have in the past. So that's really my plea to the president of the United States, but it would also be writing a letter writing, a chapter about Corporation. It would be my pleasure to present of a corporation or the president of a college or university or all of the above. Because it's going to take leadership, that makes this a priority and commit resources to actually change the culture change in behavior and change the systems that we are entering into their failing.

It. You write incredibly powerful you about accountability, which has, I think a topic on a lot of people's minds and Emily, a chapter from your book, leaked. Actually, when you held on to account for something that they did to you. There's a chapter called Blurred Lines. That's a long nuanced, thoughtful acid, a part of it. And it's a story that you tell about Robin Thicke groping you on the side of music video? And I'm curious to hear just how you felt when you saw that part of the essay collection being picked out of context and discussed, like, it was tabloid news. It was extremely hard for me.

I mean, I think that more than even accountability the importance of having control over your story on your narrative is crucial to communication to community to, to connecting to other people so that they can understand what you're trying to say. You know, that's one of the largest things in my book is is about control and and I think that which one of the reasons that I wrote the essay is that I wrote and particular Blurred Lines. It was not necessary that I wanted to write because I am familiar with the way that sexual assault allegations even just the term sexual assault and allegations has such a weight in our culture.

It's picked up by the media and it turned into clickbait and really black and white sort of thinking of accusations and victim and predator and like words that have such heavy associations. Doubt the Nuance in without the reality of those experiences. I hope that we live in a world where people will understand but these things are more complicated. Then what what the media and what the the way that he knows things are perceived online and he's clickbait headlines are and I hope that when the book comes out, people will read it and understand what I was trying to say about power dynamics and how complicated the situation was because it was an all-female crew compared to a lot of jobs that I was working at the time as an unknown model, actually did feel quite comfortable.

But ultimately, those women on set, we're not in power, and I think that, you know, you, you can only do so much and it's another part of the book is, as letting go and understanding that you can have control over your narrative and every way at all times, but it's been quite hard and I I'm looking forward to the book being published so that people can hear my story in my own words. Can I just say something about the control of the narrative? I think each of us at writing or has written a book that's written by us. And it tells our own store in the way that we wanted hell up. And then we've all chosen different ways to tell our story but it is we own it.

And I think that's why it's so important for looks like ours to be read enough to know not just making a pitch for my book, but I don't know what it is. So important is that we now have these platforms that your generation before I said, didn't have no, I think about my own mother who left school in the sixth grade, her mother who couldn't read or write and they just didn't have what we have today. The opportunity to be heard in our lives. To be told in meaningful ways. And that that control is something that I think we want to not only live to a writing, but you are everyday existence. And that's the real problem of gender violence is it takes away that control and it if you don't really does nullify any of it, maybe even all of the other rights that we have, whether to write to go to school or ride to work, or right to vote or to decide about her own Reproductive Rights, and experiences, you know, gender violence, really?

Cuz I say in the book is the figurative and actual foot on our necks. And so having that control, that, that intersection and safety of Living in a world without it is essential to who we are as human beings. And I also think it's essential to our us of the Democratic Society. So I can't. And I hope what happens is that other people will be inspired to write their own narrative in the way that they wanted written and they want addressed, whether they have been published or not. But just to be able to have that kind of control over your own story and to be the authority on your own life. Is something that I cherish.

I wish for other people to It's unprecedented. This many books has many stories, as many podcast of movies are mainstream media attention, and I think collectively, our stories are books or whatever medium for you. And other people like us, you lends itself to the greater Society, people in the world understanding what this, the life of a survivors life with survival. Look like a really understand the gravity of gender-based violence and sexual violence, right? We went to Raticate all violent openly in the world. We understand more intimately because we seen people really dig into it because he's heard from the people who survived the violence and from people from their families, you know, we want to ride the police violence because we have seen first-hand, what?

Police violence doesn't our communities. We had a lot of attention paid to Racine, you know, we watched how it's decimated communities in NC. We haven't had a similar similar attention, will focus on sexual violence of gender-based violence. And so this error that were in where we are able to control the narrative and tell a story is really a fantastic one because I think it helps people to really understand the underbelly of what we talked about and why it's going to take, what is why we continue to talk about this over and over again. Why we why we need organizing, we need all of this. Because when you look at the results that are being told in the story about the world that we want to live in early, if you want to ship that brought a change, that will have a different outcome for our children and children children and what have you?

And we need to be on this end and positive and proactive is really having a it. Just not to say Baseline. But his real deep understanding of how this violence affect the individuals, but also the community and Ultimately, the whole country, the whole world, and that means that people need to read the entire stories, and they need to give the attention that's too. Because I think we're both of you are talking about, is the nuance. And really the empathy in The Compassion that we're looking for and a deep understanding, you know, I don't think that we have that right now despite the area and that means that people really do need to pick up the books.

And I mean, you know, what, the risk of sounding like, I'm trying to just sell book, anybody story. I think that they it's a fundamental human right for people to have the right to to tell their story, how they want to and their own words and for people to listen to it and read it and consume it with respect. But can I just add that? I know that there are people who are not safe to tell her story and that is something that we have to address. Someone, I believe it was a woman who thanked me for my work and my from coming forward in 1991, but she said that she still wants to be our fault after years of telling her story.

And and this person was so fearful that she didn't put a return address on the envelope that that was still in your this was just a year or so ago that I got this food. She was brave enough to thank me, but she still wasn't comfortable that she could share her name for fear out of fear, and, you know, when we think about They was a rise in gender violence during the pandemic. When people are on lockdown and what we, I think we need to take away from that, is that there are people who are living in homes and which they live in fear, which is a violence in and of itself, just living in that fear, but with one incident or something like the pandemic or an economic downturn, that fear can turn to actual physical harm and we all need to be aware of that.

If, if we are ever going to get our arms around the full breadth of this problem. We've got to realize that the counts and we have a number that we have the stories that we have a really in a way, only the tip of the iceberg that the number of people that have to live and work and learn and worship. In the places that they won't harm our ass pounding. We are really the select few of those of us who have for speaking out for violent deaths. This issue those survivors who are able to tell our story. I was very careful about people. Still try to put it together and bits and pieces and then try to use that against me, right?

And enough. And that's a different kind of harm that is not even related to the condom on your people have in their workplaces in there. But that is the reality for most survivors. They have to exist in the places. They were harmed and they have to do that while watching people actively not care and watch people actively not be proactive, right? You want to think about black women who are put in our bodies on the front line, to stop other kinds of violence in our community, but can't count on community to help us. The bar has been Unleashed upon us inside and outside of that Community it so it is a real tragedy but it is also part of our duty.

I think in this work to keep amplify do stories on voices in the keep telling, are in ways that expand people's mind and understanding about what the reality of this phone to all types of it. If we want to leave viewers with one thing that they can hold in their minds away that they can make a difference or encourage a person power to make a difference, what we want to encourage them to do. Be proactive. It's not enough to say that you're against gender-based violence. You've got to be proactive. You got to work within your organization within your institutions. You have to change your language.

You have to stop using terms, like boys will be boys or, you know, there are only a few bad apples. You got to stop telling yourself and Smith that keep perpetuating, the problem. And I would even say we have to be very careful about our language because no weekend. I'll bring on, you know, grab the mantle of survivorship we can each of us do that in some ways we have survived but we also have to realize that there are victims. There are people who are still living in a victim but and then they would be survivors. If we put in place the right kinds of protections. The right kinds of policies and cry kinds of resources and fully funded them.

And realize that we have a public responsibility to victims and survivors alike in this country. And so I would tell people to think about how culture has trapped Us and how culture perpetuates and how culture is complicit, but I would also tell them those who have platforms and who have positions of influence to use that influence to make this issue a priority in the schools and their children schools in the places where they work when they have the power because some other workers and don't have it and really in our political system because we all have something at stake. I would say in my community in my world.

I feel like people still don't want to acknowledge how the repercussions that come for women. When they tell their stories that there is a sort of blanket denial of just how big this issue is that it again. It is not just a few bad apples, but it's the stomach, its cultural. It's not about having one person, leave the position of power who's done a couple bad things, but it's about understanding how we encourage abuse of power, are we allowed to wear it? And, you know, I do think that that is through storytelling. I think it's through people, you know, who are and situations where they, you know, of course are still facing risk for themselves, but are able to tell their stories.

And I think it's through people lift listening to those stories having compassionate and starting to truly understand how the gravity of the situation. I don't know. Just want to ask I think both of you captured that really well. This is not a spectator sport, sexual and gender-based. Violence is a Public Health crisis and we should be approaching anything that that that has millions of affected millions of lives across the world is something we should be paying way more attention to put in way, more resources into an everyday people can be localized,. I think what one of the challenges of having a viral hashtag like me to, is that what it did was allow people that watch this like a spectator sport.

And so what you have now, people who are watching to see who the next person is, who's going to be the next headline, what's going to happen? And they don't feel as involved. Whereas, when you have something like black lives, matter people, people see the front line. They see the protesters, see the organizing, and they see the violence, and they feel connected to that. And so I just employed people, you know, we Didn't have to have survivors, cutting and bleeding all over the Internet and telling their stories of trauma over and over again, in order to get a modicum of sympathy or empathy, or Compassion, or understanding.

There are no stories about hit it exists dinner. People talking about this and they are the numbers are there for you to understand just how serious. This is a crisis is a Public Health crisis. And in any prices in Public Health crisis, everyone has a role to play. There are people who are going to come boots on the ground. We're going to organize and be after this, we're going to donate money. If we're going to get trained, we're going to we're going to be proactive in that way. But for the everyday citizen, people were watching this one. Like why? What they said small conversations in your circle of influence, go to your job and print out the anti-sexual harassment policy and have some coffee with your with your friends and read it over and think about how it Spectre that is or isn't it your job.

He's a small things that you can do every day in your community impact. The ultimate issue in the Mattel have to be proactive. It is going to take a collective effort and it's going to take multiple interventions from people from all walks of life, for us to continue to move the needle. And that's really all that matters. And so we really just need people to join in this. This is a movement. It's not a spectator sport. Say one thing. I want to add to, I want us to think about this is a public health crisis, but it's beyond that. Now, it's a housing crisis. It's an education crisis is an economic crisis.

You know, it, and I think it's a, it's a blot on our democracy. When we in this country say, we believe in equality, and in gender equality, but yet, we allow this to continue and We Know It exists. As bad as Toronto said, the proof is out there. It's staring Us in the face. How many more stories do we need? And until I would just say that it's a public crisis of high enough proportion, that every leader should be thinking about how they can eliminate it in their domain. Well, I want to say thank you to all three of you for what has been a very thoughtful conversation today, and of course, also for your books, which everyone should go out and read.

We've talked about it and you're super important that we can hear stories first person from the Raiders themselves. So, thank you all three of you for joining time. 100 talks, and we hope to see you again. Thank you. Thank you for Emily.

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