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# President Trump Loves Coal So Much It's Starting to Annoy the Oil and Gas Industry

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## Justin Worland


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## Justin Worland


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Oct 6, 2017 7:25 PM UTC

Donald Trump’s love for coal is hardly secret. As a candidate, he promised to make coal great again and end a supposed “war on coal” from Obama-era regulations that favored natural gas and renewables.

At first, electric utilities and the oil and gas industry were supportive, seeing the deregulation as an opportunity for them too.

But in recent weeks concern has grown that the Trump Administration may be going too far with two proposals: a rule propping up coal suggested by the Department of Energy last week and the proposal to repeal the [Clean Power Plan](http://time.com/3986383/clean-power-plan-costs/) without a replacement which leaked to press this week.

At the heart of the dispute is the reality that the Trump Administration can’t simply bring back the coal industry by undoing regulations.

“The coal industry has been sick for awhile,” says Brendan Collins, an environmental lawyer at the firm Ballard Spahr. “The thermal coal industry is much closer to needing Dr. Frankenstein’s services than a general practitioner’s services.”

But tipping the scale in favor of coal means hurting the oil and gas industry, which competes with coal as a source of electricity. That in part explains why a proposal introduced last week by Energy Secretary Rick Perry received swift condemnation across the board.

In a letter, Perry [called](https://energy.gov/downloads/secretary-rick-perrys-letter-federal-energy-regulatory-commission) for new regulation to ensure companies operating power plants that can store 90 days of fuel onsite (essentially, coal-fired and nuclear power plants) receive payment for the electricity they produce — even if it is too expensive to compete in the open market. Perry framed the issue as a national security issue that will keep the electric grid up and running in the event of severe weather events or national emergencies.


But many outside experts believe that argument falls flat and amounts to direct government intervention in the market. Jon Wellinghoff, who chaired the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC), said the move would “blow the market up,” according to a Utility Dive [report](http://www.utilitydive.com/news/how-does-baseload-power-rule-would-blow-the-market-up/506269/). Ultimately, FERC, an independent federal agency with oversight authority over U.S. electric , will decide and observers already see skepticism in the agency’s initial response.

The groups that have criticized it include many of the most prominent energy trade groups outside of the coal sector including the American Council On Renewable Energy, which represents renewable energy providers; the American Petroleum Institute, which represents the oil and gas industry; and the American Public Power Association, which represents utilities.

“The battle lines are being drawn,” says Mark Dyson, a researcher who studies the electricity grid at the Rocky Mountain Institute. “It’s pretty clear who this would advantage.”


The effort builds on another attempt by Perry to aid the coal industry with a study evaluating whether the rapid deployment of renewables and natural gas pose a threat to the grid. By most analyses of the final document, the study shows that they do not, but Perry has since suggested otherwise.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the National Mall, Trump’s Environmental Protection Agency is [expected](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-epa-carbon-exclusive/trump-epa-to-propose-repealing-obamas-climate-regulation-document-idUSKCN1C90BY) to announce a repeal of the Clean Power Plan — an Obama-era measure that would have fought climate change by pushing coal out of the power sector — as soon as this week without introducing a replacement.

Trump’s order to reevaluate the rule earlier this year was met with widespread approval by utilities and energy companies (with the obvious exception of renewables like wind and solar), but some utility companies remain concerned that the Administration has no specific plan to replace it.

The Supreme Court has previously found that the EPA must regulate carbon dioxide to address climate change and repealing the Clean Power Plan without a replacement significant uncertainty in an industry where investments made today need to last decades.


“As EPA moves to repeal the current Clean Power Plan we have been supportive of the need to also move forward with a replacement rule,” said Jeff Ostermayer, spokesman for the Edison Electric Institute, according to a [report](http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/350759-trump-officials-eying-replacement-for-key-obama-climate-rule) in the _Hill_.

Ultimately, however, skepticism remains about whether any of Trump’s moves can actually move the market. Data from the Energy Information Administration shows the Clean Power Plan repeal stopping a massive decline in electricity from coal-fired power plants, but not reversing the last decades losses for the industry.

Indeed, on the other side, coal industry leaders have praised the administration’s moves on their behalf but demand more. In particular, many have called on EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt to take on the endangerment finding — the scientific document that underpins the agency’s carbon dioxide regulation.

“In the environment space and the energy space the administration has found that its promises are hard to keep,” says Collins. They “require much more investment and homework than the administration has invested thus far.” That investment may be yet to come.


## Transcript

[00:00] As a candidate Donald Trump had no problem giving his
[00:03] opinion about climate change. So Obama's talking about all
[00:06] of this with the global warming, and a lot of it's a hoax, it's a
[00:10] hoax, I mean it's a money making industry okay .>> But as
[00:13] president he won't say what he things and neither will his
[00:15] administration. The president himself during the campaign
[00:19] called climate change a hoax. Have you had that
[00:21] conversation with him? I have not had that conversation
[00:23] with him. He no longer believes what he tweeted during
[00:27] the course of the campaign in years earlier, that it's a
[00:29] hoax? Look, you're gonna have to ask him. I'll ask it one
[00:33] more time. Does he believe global warming's a hoax?
[00:35] Does he believe- You should ask him that. When asked
[00:37] their own opinions, other members of the Trump
[00:38] administration generally agree the climate is changing and
[00:41] humans may play a role. Climate is changing, it always
[00:44] has. Man at this particular point in time is having an effect
[00:47] on it, how much effect is what's at debate here. So why is
[00:51] Trump himself so cagey? Part of it is political, polls show
[00:55] the majority of Americans believe global warming is real
[00:58] and is caused by human activities. Part of it personal,
[01:01] Trump does not like to admit he was wrong about an issue
[01:04] in the past As can be seen from his brief and begrudging
[01:07] admission this his crusade over President Obama's birth
[01:09] certificate was mistaken. President Barack Obama
[01:14] was born in the United States, period. But there's
[01:19] a legal reason too. The Environmental Protection Agency
[01:22] has found that the greenhouse gases, which cause climate
[01:24] change Are a form of pollution that endanger human health
[01:27] and wellbeing. And thanks to a 2007 Supreme Court ruling,
[01:31] that means the EPA must act on those findings. If the
[01:33] Trump Administration were to say climate change isn't real
[01:36] it would be open to lawsuits from environmentalists for not
[01:39] acting on its own EPA findings. EPA Administrator Scott
[01:43] Pruitt is careful to say that it's real in some form. I indicated
[01:48] That in fact global warming is occurring. That human
[01:51] activity contributes to it in some manner. That doesn't mean
[01:54] the EPA has to keep the Obama administration's plans in
[01:57] place. In fact members of the Trump adminstration have
[02:00] been steadily rolling back regulations designed to fight
[02:03] climate change. They just can't say they're doing that.
[02:05] Because climate change isn't real. [ MUSIC ]
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