--- title: Lorde Discusses Taylor Swift Friendship in Interview description: The 'Melodrama' singer noted in an interview that she doesn't necessarily hang out with Swift's so-called squad. canonical: https://time.com/4849054/lorde-on-taylor-swift/ author: Raisa Bruner article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2017-07-07T15:40:03.000Z article:modified_time: 2023-12-13T06:02:18.000Z og:title: Lorde Hints She Doesn't Hang With Squad Leader Taylor Swift og:description: "I don't hang out with these people at all" og:url: https://time.com/4849054/lorde-on-taylor-swift/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt36f3e64e91255dcb/6988d4dc096a94c94569eb08/taylor-swift-lorde.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 2205 og:image:height: 1240 og:image:alt: US-OSCARS-AFTERPARTY og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Lorde Hints She Doesn't Hang With Squad Leader Taylor Swift twitter:description: "I don't hang out with these people at all" twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt36f3e64e91255dcb/6988d4dc096a94c94569eb08/taylor-swift-lorde.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Lorde Hints She Doesn't Hang Out With Her Idol, Squad Leader Taylor Swift > Sponsored content. 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It costs a lot to hang with this famous girl squad._  by [Raisa Bruner](https://time.com/author/raisa-bruner/)  ## Raisa Bruner Updated: Dec 13, 2023 6:02 AM UTCPublished: Jul 7, 2017 3:40 PM UTC  by [Raisa Bruner](https://time.com/author/raisa-bruner/)  ## Raisa Bruner Updated: Dec 13, 2023 6:02 AM UTCPublished: Jul 7, 2017 3:40 PM UTC Lorde and Taylor Swift are two of the world’s biggest names in pop music. So their long-documented friendship — the Instagrams! [the birthday parties!](http://time.com/4562412/lorde-birthday-party-photos/) The [joint performances!](http://time.com/3956960/taylor-swift-1989-tour-lorde-royals/) — is a heartwarming story of fame bringing two creative talents from across the world together on the global stage. But in a new [interview on an Australian TV station](https://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/watch/36294989/exclusive-lorde-is-relieved-by-the-success-of-melodrama/#page1), Lorde appeared to put some distance between herself and the “squad” zone that [Swift presides over.](http://time.com/4779517/taylor-swift-on-gigi-hadid/) The [_Melodrama_ singer ](http://time.com/lorde/)danced lightly around the question of befriending her musical idols, like Beyoncé and, of course, Swift. “The second you think too hard about it, you just start to go insane. So it’s best to just be like, ‘we’re in wonderland, and that’s just what happens around here.’ Like, also, I don’t hang out with these people at all,” she said. But the interviewer pressed again, noting that she was part of Swift’s [well-known “squad,”](http://time.com/4847105/taylor-swift-fourth-of-july-squad-2017/) and here’s how Lorde responded. “You know, you make friends in different places, but I think for the most part I’m not, like, calling my idols for advice necessarily,” she said. Lorde’s also been known to hang out [solo at diners](http://time.com/4736633/lorde-diner-subway-new-york/) and take [incognito Uber rides](http://time.com/4425153/lordes-uber-driver-is-pumped-about-famous-people-who-arent-lorde/). Then again, Swift hosted a [celebrity-packed](http://time.com/4562412/lorde-birthday-party-photos/) 20th birthday party for the Kiwi musician last November with appearances by Aziz Ansari, Lena Dunham and Karlie Kloss. Lorde also recently spoke vaguely in response to a question about her friendship with Swift, [comparing](http://people.com/music/lorde-taylor-swift-autoimmune-disease/) spending time with someone of Swift’s level of fame to spending time with someone with an “auto-immune disease,” a comment for which she later apologized after drawing criticism. “Didn’t mention Taylor, but regardless, I f—ed up and that was really insensitive. I’m sorry,” she [tweeted](https://twitter.com/lorde/status/876956751907532800) afterward. **UPDATE:** In a statement shared to Twitter later, Lorde wrote that she made a mistake with her interview response, but took issue with the way the interview was covered by the press. 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