--- title: How Taylor Swift Addresses Kim Kardashian on Her New Album description: Why fans think Taylor Swift's "thanK you aIMee" and "Cassandra" are about Kim Kardashian canonical: https://time.com/6969075/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-tortured-poets-department/ author: Moises Mendez article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2024-04-19T15:02:07.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:50:29.146Z article:section: Entertainment og:title: How Taylor Swift Addresses Kim Kardashian on Her New Album og:description: Why fans think Taylor Swift's "thanK you aIMee" and "Cassandra" are about Kim Kardashian og:url: https://time.com/6969075/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-tortured-poets-department/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9a93251a281b648c/698a55c6cabb1d4cdee5406a/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-tortured-poets-department.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 2400 og:image:height: 1350 og:image:alt: taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-tortured-poets-department og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: How Taylor Swift Addresses Kim Kardashian on Her New Album twitter:description: Why fans think Taylor Swift's "thanK you aIMee" and "Cassandra" are about Kim Kardashian twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9a93251a281b648c/698a55c6cabb1d4cdee5406a/taylor-swift-kim-kardashian-tortured-poets-department.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Why Fans Think Taylor Swift’s 'Thank You Aimee' and 'Cassandra' Are About Kim Kardashian > Sponsored content. 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They discuss the community their channel has fostered, why Swift and her music mean so much to them and their supporters, and what it was like to get noticed by Taylor herself._  by [Moises Mendez](https://time.com/author/moises-mendez-ii/)  ## Moises Mendez Apr 19, 2024 3:02 PM UTC  Taylor Swift; Kim Kardashian Taylor Swift; Kim Kardashian Getty Images (2)  by [Moises Mendez](https://time.com/author/moises-mendez-ii/)  ## Moises Mendez Apr 19, 2024 3:02 PM UTC A bonus track on Taylor Swift’s _The Tortured Poets Department_ has listeners theorizing that the singer is talking about Kim Kardashian. The track “[thanK you aIMee](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1c7pm7l/thank%5Fyou%5Falmee%5Fdiscussion%5Fmegathread/)” is stylized so that the capital letters spell out the name “Kim” and the track “Cassandra” seems to reference the night that she got “the call” from Kardashian and Kanye West. Swift begins the song singing, “When I picture my hometown, there’s a bronze spray-tanned statue of you,” which can be interpreted as a pointed reference to Kardashian’s deep tan. In the chorus, Swift sings, “[All that time you were throwin' punches, I was buildin' somethin](https://genius.com/31479540/Taylor-swift-thank-you-aimee/All-that-time-you-were-throwin-punches-i-was-buildin-somethin).’ And I can't forgive the way you made me feel. Screamed "[Fuck you, Aimee](https://genius.com/31479653/Taylor-swift-thank-you-aimee/Fuck-you-aimee)" to the night sky, as the blood was gushin’. But I can't forget the way you made me heal.” ## **What happened with Kim Kardashian and Taylor Swift?** Swift and Kardashian have had bad blood since 2016, when Kardashian uploaded a three-minute snippet of what was later revealed to be a 25-minute phone call that made it seem like Swift approved of Kanye West’s song “Famous,” which includes the line, “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex. Why? I made that b-tch famous,” a reference to his infamous moment with Swift at the 2009 VMAs. Swift later said she did not approve of him calling her “that b-tch” and didn’t know he was going to refer to her that way. Kardashian uploaded her video to make it seem like Swift was lying about and said that Swift “[totally knew.](https://www.gq.com/story/kim-kardashian-west-gq-cover-story)” The resulting drama between Swift, Kardashian, and West served as the inspiration for Swift’s 2017 album, _Reputation_. Now, the singer is invoking it again in her new album. In the song, she refers to their clash in 2016 in the second verse, singing, it “wasn't a fair fight, or a clean kill.” Their beef seemed to have cut Swift deep and taken a toll: “Everyone knows that my mother is a saintly woman, but she used to say she wished that you were dead.” On the bridge, she lifts herself and tells this “Aimee” character that she might not know how much what she did may have hurt her and that Aimee might have “reframed it” in her head. “I don't think you've changed much, and so I changed your name, and any real defining clues," she sings. "[And one day, your kid comes home singin' a song that only us two is gonna know is about you](https://genius.com/31479069/Taylor-swift-thank-you-aimee/And-one-day-your-kid-comes-home-singin-a-song-that-only-us-two-is-gonna-know-is-about-you-cause).” This seems to be a reference to North West singing “Shake It Off” to her mother in a TikTok they posted to their account in 2023\. The song, though from 2014, references Swift’s haters—a major one seeming to be Kardashian. In the last chorus of “[thanK you aIMee](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1c7pm7l/thank%5Fyou%5Falmee%5Fdiscussion%5Fmegathread/),” the lyrics change a bit. Throughout the song, she says that she screamed “F-ck You Aimee” to the night sky, but in the last chorus, she thanks Aimee for putting her through this, because she’s healed and come out the other side of it. ## Transcript Taylor Swift song about Taylor Swift's most recent we decided to start a channel call me when you're about 5 months after the lover album came out and then the pandemic hitch and you just decided that you know, not only will wait needing something to say to fill out time with it. Also that people just we felt that people would not so understanding what we should have felt Taylor Swift was doing at the time and so we decided not moment that we wanted to be starting a YouTube channel so that we could just talk about the album's and should have shared why we think she's so incredible then a couple of months later. It just so happened that she surprised. Bike lure adding that was Alpha a big reaction to a brand new album is that was the video that really took off and I think so to put us on the the YouTube map stream. wildest dreams amazing When we put it all people really loved it, and I guess people want there. So just keep doing it. We had no idea that it would turn into what it has now. Like, we really just thought it would be a fun little side project prior to doing this full-time. I was actually working in banking. It wasn't something at the time that I was feeling super passionate about Taylor Swift is always be my number one. The definitely was no part of me. That's what that I could be making a job out of it patreon. He's the only way that we make money currently I doing this he took us less than a year to get to the point where a lot about subscribers on YouTube should have came over to the patreon platform with and wanted to support us in that way. I was able to quit my previous job and Bonnie was able to do to stop doing the the solar YouTube stuff that she was doing for fun up until that point. There's nothing better than being able to talk about Taylor Swift as a full-time jobs like I'm getting tired, even for a phoenix always rising from the ashes mending all her gashes. You might just have dealt the final blow. Sorry perfectly metaphorical for everything that she doesn't have a life Taylor Swift fans all such die-hard fans. And so I think it really makes them feel seen and understood when they're able to say to people who love Taylor Swift to the same level, but they do I can't express that excitement and joy of listening to her music. baby to sit up I think it's easy for people to feel like they can connect with us. And we feel the same by like reading the comments and all of them messages. Yeah over the years. A lot of people have told us that it feels like that just went on Facebook request friend and you know, a lot of them stay as well that they don't have a lot of people in their own lives. Love Taylor Swift's the way that they do so I think that can really mean a lot of people to feel like they've got like 2 online best friends who just get it at it's the same level that they do the community that we've managed to build from this YouTube channel has been just overwhelming like meeting people in real life and reading comments as well. Everyone is just so supportive and Give so much love and honestly, we always look at each other. We like I don't know what we did. Just get a negative comment. It just it's honestly a lot to say we try to just practice gratitude everyday cuz we like we can't believe how lucky we are to have such an awesome community. And I think it's just because they get so much joy from watching aljoy is this this is Joy Inception, I think in this day and age even though we're more connected than ever with the internet. I think a lot of people are also experiencing a lot of loneliness and isolation, especially after the pain. And so I think that being a pot of this community being a swiftie knowing that there's so many millions of people who were also a part of that community and who relate to her music in the way that we do it does really make you feel like you're not alone. She just is really great at making you feel connected and understanding are no martians and you are an experience in life in the same way. That some of our subscribers feel about us we feel about Taylor that she's able to so perfectly articulate the way that we feel that we feel like she's another one of our best friends when she's when we listen to Hillsong and she's asleep like the world's biggest Super-Sod the same time extremely fortunate to be able to go to five of the seven shows that he had tickets to the first two nights in Melbourne and the very last night. We were sitting around all day on the couch. It was quarter past 6 p.m. And we got a GM from Taylor nation, which is Taylor staying in and actually you were the one that are open today. This is why I like to invite you guys back for tonight show we can make it. Please let it snow. we rushed to the stadium through on an outfit and when we got there we were greeted by Taylor's dad's Scott and he delivered us a handwritten letters b a love True Lies Holiday Valley No. just coffee hand written letter Emily hot Sending my love Kayla to know that she loves out reaction videos and does feel supported by them. It just means the world to me. 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