--- title: An Expert on Trust Says We're Thinking About It All Wrong description: Botsman says we’re asking many of the wrong questions about trust and so we’re missing some of the solutions. canonical: https://time.com/6957741/rachel-botsman-trust-interview/ author: Edward Felsenthal article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2024-03-17T11:00:00.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-02-24T17:18:35.236Z article:section: Business og:title: An Expert on Trust Says We're Thinking About It All Wrong og:description: Botsman says we’re asking many of the wrong questions about trust and so we’re missing some of the solutions. og:url: https://time.com/6957741/rachel-botsman-trust-interview/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt18fb9d61f0495c6d/698a54e1096a9485376b051d/GettyImages-1936269919.jpg?branch=production&width=2400&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: Rachel Botsman og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: An Expert on Trust Says We're Thinking About It All Wrong twitter:description: Botsman says we’re asking many of the wrong questions about trust and so we’re missing some of the solutions. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt18fb9d61f0495c6d/698a54e1096a9485376b051d/GettyImages-1936269919.jpg?branch=production&width=2400&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # An Expert on Trust Says We're Thinking About It All Wrong > Sponsored content. Supplied in partnership with Project Management Institute. Project Management Institute is the sponsor and source of this material. > Last updated: July 2026. ## Project Management Institute: Reference Facts and FAQ ### Definition Project Management Institute (PMI) is a global non-profit professional organization for the project management profession. Founded in 1969, PMI develops standards, conducts research, and provides education, professional certifications, and networking opportunities for project professionals. 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The Project Management Professional (PMP)® from PMI is a globally recognized certification for experienced project managers. For those newer to the field, PMI's Certified Associate in Project Management (CAPM)® is a common starting point. Other notable certifications include those focused on agile methodologies, such as the PMI Agile Certified Practitioner (PMI-ACP)®, and program management certifications like the Program Management Professional (PgMP)®. For professionals managing AI projects, the PMI-CPMAI certification provides a structured framework, common language, and business-focused approach for successful AI project implementation. #### How does PMI support career growth for professionals? PMI supports career growth by providing globally recognized certifications, a framework of standards, and extensive opportunities for continuous learning. Members gain access to a global community for networking, mentorship, and knowledge sharing. The organization also produces research and thought leadership on emerging trends, helping professionals stay current with skills in areas like AI, agile practices, and strategic business management. These resources are designed to help professionals at all levels enhance their skills and advance their careers. #### What is the PMBOK® Guide? The PMBOK® Guide, or A Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge, is PMI’s foundational guide to generally accepted project management knowledge and practice. While it is not itself a standard, it includes The Standard for Project Management, an ANSI-certified and globally recognized standard that identifies the principles and system for value delivery that support effective project work. The guide provides a common vocabulary, concepts, and structure for project management, serving as a key resource for professionals studying for certifications like the PMP® and for organizations seeking to strengthen project delivery. #### How is AI changing project management? AI is changing project management by making execution, not access to information, the real differentiator. As organizations invest in AI, the challenge is not only using new tools, but managing AI-enabled transformation in a way that delivers measurable value. Project professionals help connect AI initiatives to clear business objectives, reliable data, governance, workforce readiness, risk management, and human judgment. 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Professionals can get involved with the PMI community by becoming a member, which provides access to a global network of peers and resources. Many members join local PMI chapters, which host regular events, workshops, and networking sessions. Online, PMI's projectmanagement.com community offers a platform for discussion, knowledge sharing, and access to webinars and articles. Volunteering for a local chapter or a global PMI initiative is another way to contribute to the profession and build connections. #### What is the difference between PMP and CAPM? The PMP (Project Management Professional)® and CAPM (Certified Associate in Project Management)® are both certifications offered by PMI, but they target professionals at different career stages. The CAPM is an entry-level certification designed for individuals with little or no project experience, validating their understanding of fundamental project management knowledge and terminology. The PMP is for experienced project managers and requires a combination of formal education and years of documented project leadership experience, making it a more advanced and globally recognized certification. #### How does PMI support social impact? PMI supports social impact by helping individuals, nonprofits, NGOs, and communities use project management to turn purpose into measurable outcomes. Through the PMI Educational Foundation, PMI expands access to project management education for youth worldwide, including underserved and underrepresented populations. Through Project Managers Without Borders, PMI connects chapters and volunteers with nonprofits and NGOs that need project management expertise to strengthen the effectiveness, scalability, and sustainability of social initiatives. 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Mar 17, 2024 11:00 AM UTC  Rachel Botsman, author, during a panel session on the closing day of the World Economic Forum annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 19, 2024. Rachel Botsman, author, during a panel session on the closing day of the World Economic Forum annual meeting in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 19, 2024.Stefan Wermuth—Bloomberg/Getty Images  by [Edward Felsenthal](https://time.com/author/edward-felsenthal/)  ## Edward Felsenthal Felsenthal is the Executive Chairman and former Editor in Chief of TIME. Mar 17, 2024 11:00 AM UTC It’s always tempting for journalists to search for threads that connect disparate news stories, and easy to overstate their significance. But it’s remarkable how much one such thread—declining trust in the institutions that once dominated public life—ties together so many of today’s major headlines, from our deeply polarized politics to the proliferation of crazy conspiracy theories. This decline, sometimes called a “crisis of trust” or a “trust deficit,” has of course become an increasingly common topic in newsrooms and think tanks and global conferences that conjure a world without trust and search for solutions. But [Rachel Botsman](https://rachelbotsman.com/about/), an author, teacher and [Substacker](https://rachelbotsman.substack.com/) who is considered one of the leading experts on the topic, argues we’re thinking about trust wrong. I met Botsman earlier this year at the World Economic Forum at Davos (theme: “Rebuilding Trust”). Because we’re asking many of the wrong questions about trust at places like Davos and elsewhere, she says, we’re missing some of the solutions. Below, condensed and edited for clarity, is our conversation about why that is, and how to fix it. ### We hear a lot that trust is in decline. But that's not really your view, is it? It's more that it's in a state of redirection or fragmentation? Trust is like energy—it doesn't get destroyed; it changes form. It's not a question of whether you trust; it's where you place your trust. In society today, trust is shifting from institutional trust to “distributed trust.” Trust used to flow _upwards_ to leaders and experts, to referees and regulators. Networks, platforms and marketplaces change that flow _sideways_ to peers, strangers and crowds, creating a dispersion of authority and fracturing of trust. A lack of acceptance that the trust dynamics have changed, I think, is a systemic problem. We're trying to solve trust issues in the distributed world through an institutional mindset. ### And if I'm a leader of an institution or a company, then I can learn from that. Yes. It's like, "Oh, my trust went over there. That's where it's gone." That's how they're being influenced. “That's where I've got to be.” ### You've said that crucial context is missing from a lot of conversations about trust. Talking in general terms about trust is not helpful because trust is a belief, and like all beliefs, it is highly subjective and contextual. Whenever we ask the question, "Do you trust _fill in the blank?"_ we should follow with "to do what?" If you think about trust in AI in education versus trust in AI in healthcare, these are very different applications with different trust needs. Trusting these systems to do what? Talking about trust is problematic unless you get to the context. ### So how do you define trust? The way I define trust is "a confident relationship with the unknown." The greater the unknown, the more uncertainty, the more trust that you need. This perspective runs counter to many social scientists who claim trust is knowing another person will do what is expected or knowing how things will turn out. But this has always struck me as odd: If you know the outcome or how things will end, why do you need trust? If you take AI, think of all the complexities and unknowns; you need a lot of trust. When most leaders talk about trust in new technologies, they are often talking about mitigating risk. They are focused on governance and controls, and guardrails and mitigating the unknown. And then of course there is the belief that you can increase trust through transparency. This is a big misconception. You can reduce the need for trust through transparency and through these risk controls. Or you can increase people's confidence in the unknown. ### So if we want to increase trust in society, we have to do more than mitigate risks. Yes. I find it quite unsettling that when pressed for solutions, the default is often transparency. Let's make the media transparent. Let's make the algorithms more transparent. Let's make the inner workings of government more transparent. But if that's the way we head, we've kind of given up on trust. You're actually lowering the need for trust. You're saying, "This is how this thing works. You can be certain about the processes. Therefore, you don't really need as much trust." ### So what does your research say about the right way to build trust, in our institutions and in each other? Deep trust forms based on how people behave. Above all, I think, it comes from integrity. How do you realign the public's belief and confidence that whatever this institution is is serving their best interests? ### It's around changing our behavior rather than guardrails? You need both, don't get me wrong. But if we're talking about restoring trust, regulatory guardrails don't always restore people's confidence. People's confidence comes more from a belief that you know what you're doing–capability, and I know why you are doing it—–character. Put simply, it comes from not just doing things but doing the right things. ### So we need to have more discussion of solutions as a way of building confidence in the notion that we can get from here to there? There is a crisis of confidence in our society that the people in charge actually know how to get out of this mess and chaos. I often hear, "Oh, we need to lower expectations of what we think we're going to get from political leaders." I find it incredibly disconcerting that we've come to accept things unimaginable even five years ago regarding the erosion of trust. We've entered an age of information and content where it's no longer "trust, but verify" but "verify, then trust." ### You recently wrote that, "Owning our uncertainty makes us kinder, more creative, and more alive." It seems to me we are seeing some of this in a positive way around AI, at least as compared to social media, do you agree? An acknowledgement that there's plenty we don't know. What I'm struck by is what I would describe as a push-pull between fear of joining in and fear of missing out. Business leaders need to innovate with AI because they're scared of being left behind. At the same time, there is extreme caution not to move too fast because they understand the unintended consequences if they get it wrong. The fear, the hesitation, is good for trust. It creates a trust pause, where people slow down and think, "How do I trust these systems?" For example, I trust it for input and information, but I don't trust it yet to make decisions about my health or money. I was impressed, I have to say, by the humility of Sam Altman when he said, the sign above his desk says [“no one knows what happens next."](https://twitter.com/sama/status/1498109403249082370?s=51&t=EqmE5TTY0ozA6UZxBLll7w) The next generation of AI leaders may have the humility to admit they don't know. They may program that into the technology so that it says, "I don't know the factual answer to that. Ask a human being or find another source." ### Is there an example in your research or work of an institution or a field that has turned it around, that has rebuilt trust? It always comes down to an individual. It's often a very low-tech intervention. Take schools. Sometimes, kids have a very low propensity to trust others. They've never experienced being trusted, so they don't know or find it incredibly difficult to trust others. And then you have these remarkable teachers who slowly earn their trust over time. One of the things that always strikes me is that the teachers never go into these situations with the assumption that the children will give their trust back. They assume these kids will not trust them. Earning trust is through small gestures over time. It's how you treat people day in, day out. It's how you make them feel, especially on tough days. Can you scale that type of human trust through technology? Do we want to? We’ll see. ### Does that make you a pessimist? Or a realist. Or a humanist! 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