--- title: Filmmaker Ariana Delawari on Afghanistan's Future description: TIME speaks to Afghan American Ariana Delawari about her two decades in and out of Afghanistan, and what comes next. canonical: https://time.com/6206423/ariana-delawari-we-came-home-afghanistan-interview/ author: Justine Simons article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2022-08-16T15:43:19.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-10-14T09:38:31.884Z article:section: World og:title: Q&A: Filmmaker Ariana Delawari on Afghanistan's Future og:description: TIME speaks to Afghan American Ariana Delawari about her two decades in and out of Afghanistan, and what comes next. og:url: https://time.com/6206423/ariana-delawari-we-came-home-afghanistan-interview/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt6a5afe0dd69b1767/698a34a7e6e84a60872af34f/WeCameHome1.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1920 og:image:height: 1080 og:image:alt: We Came Home og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Q&A: Filmmaker Ariana Delawari on Afghanistan's Future twitter:description: TIME speaks to Afghan American Ariana Delawari about her two decades in and out of Afghanistan, and what comes next. twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt6a5afe0dd69b1767/698a34a7e6e84a60872af34f/WeCameHome1.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # This Filmmaker Set Out To Record Her Family’s Journey Rebuilding Afghanistan. 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We Came Home is a 2012 feature documentary by musician Ariana Delawari, about her Afghan American family’s very personal journey to try and help Afghanistan rebuild in the years after the fall of the Taliban in 2001. Delawari’s father was the former Governor of Afghanistan’s Central Bank and had a front-row seat to the conflict and corruption that undermined efforts to stabilize the nation. She documented his work while also realizing her own ambitions to revive music and art in a land where it had been banned under the Taliban._  by [Justine Simons](https://time.com/author/justine-simons/)  ## Justine Simons Aug 16, 2022 3:43 PM UTC  by [Justine Simons](https://time.com/author/justine-simons/)  ## Justine Simons Aug 16, 2022 3:43 PM UTC _We Came Home_ is a 2012 feature documentary by musician Ariana Delawari, about her Afghan American family’s very personal journey to try and help Afghanistan rebuild in the years after the fall of the Taliban in 2001\. Delawari’s father was the former Governor of Afghanistan’s Central Bank and had a front-row seat to the conflict and corruption that undermined efforts to stabilize the nation. She documented his work while also realizing her own ambitions to revive music and art in a land where it had been banned under the Taliban. One year after the Taliban retook Kabul on Aug. 15, 2021, the 2012 _We Came Home_ seems ever more prescient—and serves as a reminder of what is at stake. **When you set out to make this film in 2002, can you describe how you felt about the future of Afghanistan?** The footage in the film begins in 2002, though I didn’t actually realize I was making a film until 2007\. In 2002, there was immense hope in the air in Afghanistan. Afghans were celebrating the fall of the Taliban. Girls were back in school, children were flying kites again, men were shaving their beards, women were slowly coming back out of their homes and, in Kabul, they were taking off their burqas. Afghans felt “free,” even though there was a new occupation. The Taliban were such a brutal regime that the people felt they were finally free. You had to be there at that time to feel the palpable sense of celebration, relief and hope. **At one point in the movie your Mom says, “maybe one day we’ll talk about how these were the good old days,” which seems so poignant to hear a year after Kabul fell to the Taliban again. Do you think she could have expected what was to come?** I think about that line all the time. She said it in 2009, which felt like a turning point in the country, in a less hopeful direction. But then it changed again around the time the film premiered with a whole new generation of Afghans coming of age. But my Mom was more skeptical, I think. She died in April 2020, and one of the last things she said on her death bed was, “What’s going to happen with Afghanistan?” **Your parents are Afghan—your Dad raised in Afghanistan and your Mom in the U.S. to a half-Afghan, half-Sicilian family. Can you tell us a bit more about your family?** My father’s name, Noor, means “light” and my mother’s name, Setara, means “star.” Not a day of our lives went by that my parents weren’t doing something for our people. My maternal grandfather grew up with no mother—he had such a tragic childhood and such an intense immigration story leading up to meeting my maternal Sicilian grandmother. I think my Mom’s deep love for her father drew her to Afghanistan. And that, of course, is how my parents met. Afghanistan was literally the seed of their love. **Your first trip to Afghanistan was in 2002\. How did it impact your work as an artist and musician?** My first trip to Afghanistan changed my life. It made me a better person. I came back with an awareness of the depths of American privilege. I learned to be more gracious and more patient. I naturally started incorporating my experiences from Afghanistan and aspects of Afghan music into my art. We were immersed in politics in our home, and I knew at a very young age that my art would always be political. I just couldn’t have ever imagined that I would get to go to Afghanistan, let alone spend two decades in and out of the country making art. Everything I’ve created and everything I’m currently creating is informed by my love for Afghanistan and the many layers of beauty and tragedy within this identity. **There is such a difficult history for artists in Afghanistan under the Taliban. What was it like in the years that you were able to visit?** The footage in the film documents my trips from 2002 to 2011\. During that time, the art scene in Afghanistan was pretty much underground. People were slowly emerging to create and share their work publicly. In 2011, a major shift started happening, and young artists were starting to play live and share their fine art as well. It went from a few bands, graffiti artists and fine artists to a total renaissance of art in the country. By 2017, Afghanistan was almost unrecognizable in terms of the emergence of these young, bold Afghan artists. **Read More:** [_Far From Home: One Year After the Fall of Kabul, Afghan Women Are Attempting To Build New Lives Abroad_](https://time.com/afghan-women-kabul-fall-anniversary/) **What is happening to artists today?** Artists in Afghanistan have lost everything and are in danger. In 2012, I performed at the very first women’s day concert in Afghanistan since the Taliban lost power in 2001\. After the show, a group of orphan girls came up and said they wanted to learn to play guitar. I was so moved. Fast forward to December 2021, and during Christmas my sister gives me a photograph of a young Afghan girl who fled the country. She is holding a cardboard cut-out of a guitar with her face covered; she had destroyed the guitar for safety. The photo is framed on my wall as a reminder of who we must protect and support. That little girl could have easily been me. It could have been any of us. And today, a dear friend of mine, Massoud Hosseini, said that he buried all of his photography awards before fleeing the country in August 2021\. He had won a Pulitzer Prize for one of his photographs and buried it for his own safety. These aren’t even the worst stories that exist; the Taliban have murdered several artists since they retook control. Another dear friend, Sajid Arghandiwal, shared a story on social media about how Koche Kharabat—Kabul’s “musical street”—has gone silent. Generations of musicians have lived and played there. But the Taliban has been going after Afghan musicians. For the last year, our timelines and WhatsApp chats have been flooded with videos of public torture and executions by the Taliban. It is horrific beyond words. **There is some archival footage in the film where your Dad says, “I think it’s a great mistake if the free world ignores what’s going on in Afghanistan.” He said that in 1984\.** My father begged the world to care during the Soviet invasion from 1979 to 1989, and through the Taliban years. But no one listened to Afghans like him. Then a few months before 9/11 he wrote a paper called “Bin Laden’s War in Afghanistan” and sent it to some members of Congress. He was warning of what could come. No one took it seriously, including me. He asked me to proofread it, and I honestly was annoyed about it. As you see in the film, he went back after the U.S. entered Afghanistan, to help rebuild the country. As the Taliban retook Afghanistan last year, I watched everything my father spent years building fall in a matter of days. The saddest moment for me was when they went into banks and forced female employees at gunpoint to quit. I was there when my father hired the first female bankers after the Taliban fell in 2001\. There were probably thousands of female bankers throughout the country before last August, and I watched them lose all of their rights. I feel like history is repeating itself, but now I’m the one begging people to listen. The Taliban have banned Afghan girls from secondary school and have stripped Afghan women of their rights. We must not ignore what is happening. **What are the best ways today for people to help Afghans both in and out of the country?** I gave a TEDx talk about this last November. I proposed that we partner with the young generation of Afghans. Put the voices of Afghan women and the most marginalized Afghans, who are stuck in the country or recently exiled, at the forefront of every conversation about Afghanistan. Afghanistan is one of the youngest countries in the world. That could become the worst nightmare for the Taliban if we, collectively as global citizens, partner with and empower these young Afghans to rise above tyranny and brutality and create solutions in the face of such immense adversity. I also have a more specific proposal that I’ve wanted to find backers for: a leadership summit. Bring some leading global innovators from different areas of society with grassroots Afghan youth leaders on the ground and those in exile. Why not utilize the internet to create connections for these Afghans who are stuck in such dire circumstances? If anyone wants to simply donate, a few organizations that I believe in are: [Aseel app](https://aseelapp.com/), [Code to Inspire](https://www.codetoinspire.org/), the [Uplift Afghanistan Fund](https://www.upliftafghanistan.org/) and [LEARN](https://learnafghan.org/). People in the U.S. can support newly arrived Afghan refugees by pushing Congress to pass an Afghan American-led campaign called the Afghan Adjustment Act, to ensure Washington keeps its promise to its Afghan friends and allies and resettles them. More generally, we must collectively stand with the people of Afghanistan. My mother was fond of the proverb, “Where there’s a will, there’s a way.” I don’t have all the answers but I trust that if we work together with the goal of a free and peaceful Afghanistan, a path will emerge. We are strongest together. _This interview has been edited and condensed._ ## Transcript My name is Arianna. Delawari my parents named me Ariana after the ancient name of Afghanistan. My last name is courageous. My love for Afghanistan lies in the deepest part of my heart. When I started traveling to Afghanistan, I was just documenting my trips. I had no idea I was making the film. People always ask why it was so important for me to go there. And why I care so much about this country My mother's father came to the United States when he was 19 years old, his father, my great-grandfather came home. One day with a trunk of goods and a coin rolled out. My grandfather, picked it up. It was a US penny. He thought that Abraham Lincoln was a holy man. He was so moved by the face of Abraham Lincoln. And by the words in God, we trust that he said I must go there. One day, he stowed away in the rafters of a ship in Karachi with his best friend. All he had was a bunch of bananas and a loaf of bread. He snuck into the country and he met my Sicilian grandmother, Pauline restivo? It was practically unheard of for an Afghan Muslim man to marry a sicilian Catholic woman, but my grandfather was a charmer and my grandmother was a rebel, a raised 12 children in New Jersey. My mother was the sex And I can remember my father talking to me about the old country, he was always talking about the old country and I didn't know which country it was. I just had this longing to go to this old country. And that my mother was in the house making oatmeal. And I was sitting on the step looking, of course, that Logan called Bay. Thinking that was the ocean someday, I'm going to go. Other side of the world. That was the other side of the world. She finally went there, when she was 22 years old. That's how she met my dad. They raised us in Los Angeles. Years ago, two of these girls were dodging Russian bombs and bullets in the homeland of Afghanistan, but it looks to me as though, but Donna has helped them to adopted a new country and to adapt very well. Do the material world as Material Girl? I was born in Los Angeles, California. The year that the Soviets invaded Afghanistan Massive Soviet military forces have invaded the small not aligned Sovereign Nation of Afghanistan. The people of Afghanistan are leaving their country. The circumstances very only in their individual stories, family fled Afghanistan and moved into our home. 20 days before, I was born, when they got here in our house, a celebration of a new Stark rather than he's sad about having to leave behind something, you know, that they missed. We had Afghan parties every weekend with live musician. Dari was my first leg match? We lived in a small town called La Canada at the end of the cul-de-sac. All the ways, his Sunday best. Mother Star Chinese Restaurant in Hazlet. Brothers, count it back to que pican, hang around. Any brothers or sisters. Do you have brothers? How many? I was also born the same year that my father discovered, the purpose of his life. Bring peace to Afghanistan. Savannah, second that the Russians invaded Afghanistan Newark, was totally devoted to bring his country and he spent every weekend, Demonstrations meeting with the King flying to Washington meeting with Congress made meetings in our house because history was made in her house because I was just all the news people that the mistress in my marriage was a country of Denison. I can't remember a single day in my life. When my father wasn't talking about Afghanistan to me, Afghanistan was important matters. On my mind, I work for Lloyds Bank and then central bank. And then Independence Bank, three, major banks in California. Always, I was vice president manager of key. International divisions of these bags. My heart told me to go to fight like the rest of them. But my mind told me, no, he cannot do that to you, have a wife in your family. So to do all those things that I did for Afghanistan. And there was a selfish reason, cuz I have to pacify my mind and I'm doing something useful, I'm doing something that the best I could do out of the United States, was fighting so hard to freeze people. I didn't think anyone was listening. I thought he was wasting his time and I wasn't that much older but I was old enough to really understand. We saw firsthand what are cousins. Had lived through many of her little kids, they were dodging bombs. There's a little boy who came to our house and I remember him playing with Ariana, he was about Ariana's age and he had lost his hand because he had picked up one of these line. Their remaining, what would be future soldiers? During the ten years of Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. I organize every one of the demonstrations took place in Los Angeles, some very hard feeling, which I experienced in. Los Angeles demonstration, in front of the federal building, we had about six. Seven hundred people asking and trying to stop Soviet genocide in Afghanistan. Do you know? There was not one single American News, man, in that place we had in for every one of the channels television channels and news media in Los Angeles. No one came with ignore what's going on in Afghanistan. When the Soviets finally withdrew from Afghanistan a civil war broke out in the country and the Taliban a fundamentalist regime took over All art, they band music. Women had to be covered from head, to toe little girls were told that they could no longer go to school. It's a very, very different Afghanistan from what my father, and his brothers and sisters grew up with my aunt's grew up in miniskirts and beehives and it was a modern time in Afghanistan that they grew up in. At what we see today, it's all rooted back to the Taliban and how the Taliban came. It was Bin Laden. He was a conduit bringing money from the Soviets to set up Calvin. Schools in Pakistan is called mattresses and these thousands of dollars and then when the Soviet Union, withdrew and United States lost interest in Afghanistan Bin Laden, God, Found the country and his disposal, the Train, San Andreas and thousands of times the American terrorists. I don't know why you didn't see what will happen. September 11th, changed our lives forever. My mom happened to be visiting my sister in New York. We went up to my roof. If you looked out on all the rooftops, you could see everybody was on the ribs. And at this point after the second plane hit everyone realize this was not a mistake. So we were all still trying to wrap our minds around what was happening and I remember my neighbors saying who could have done this and my mom. I'm trying to she said, as long as I wanted, he's been training terrorists in Afghanistan for years. Newark wrote a paper folding. Osama Bin Laden born in July of 2001, July of 2001, two months before September 11th have took it to Congress and none of the missing since 81 nobody After 9/11 them two pages from CIA in an anti-terrorist unit of the state department that came to me from where you got this information. I was reading a newspaper, clipping. These clippings I've kept because I wasn't following. I'm not paid like you. You should have followed this. You should have prevented this. The second, the Taliban fell. I knew my dad would go to Afghanistan and in February of 2002. He got on a plane and moved there to help rebuild the country. One of the first things, my dad had to do when he got to Afghanistan, was helped, create modern banking laws, without these laws. There could be no Banks without banks. There was no way for foreign governments or individuals to wire money into the country and begin the reconstruction. I'm finishing up packing, girl. Where are you going going to Afghanistan? My parents sold their business, their home and everything. They owned. This Thursday is sold on Saturday, when escrow closed a lot of my new furniture and stuff. I sold to the new owners of the house and the rest of it. You put a sign moving to Afghanistan everything free. I made my first trip to Afghanistan in October of 2002. I never thought I'd get to go there. I looked down at the mountains and I knew my life was about to change. It was a magical time a moment in history. I truly believed that Afghanistan would finally be free. New back for the old Afghan equivalent to just one US dollar replaced by 50, new Afghani, where's the same amount taking place under the watchful. Eye of sophisticated American Train, Commercial Banker Nordell. War is bullet holes in the windows. What's the Torah? Finally at peace with their decision to give up retirement. Savings plans in the states for this, we burn the old money. Four different type of currency in circulation in two-thirds of the money was outside. The central bank's control in order to reestablish a stable currency in the country took back all the currencies of different Warlock and not them mounted to 20,000 tonnes of the time. It was the first time I really got to see my dad's work reach Afghanistan. My dad was asked to create Isaac Afghan investment Support Agency, a one-stop-shop that made it quicker and easier to start a business in Afghanistan following the success of Aisa, my dad was named the governor of the central bank for the head of the Federal Reserve Afghanistan. His signature was on the money. I continue to travel to Afghanistan things really seem, like they were getting better on my second trip. I took my sister Yasmin. Foxhaven Court. You asked what the future? Play Breakin 88th and Walton. Weather feels like California. Wiley Cameron. How tall is Jesus? During the time of the Taliban music was banned dancing was forbidden and women had to be covered up and separate from the men. It it only been two years since the fall of the Taliban. We couldn't believe that they welcomed us. Tablecloth. I've been making music for a while. I was just making songs and secret and not sharing them with anyone. But I hadn't been making them with an Afghan into a In January of 2005 and over there, I took my guitar and I started writing songs that sounded ask him. But I don't, I don't know. I just, it's the sounds that were coming out of me. The idea to make an album in Afghanistan. Came one day, when I was visiting an orphanage in a little girl, handed me a pink guitar. The Taliban we're starting to gain sort of like power again in the last year and it made me really, really devastating lie, sad and concerned, cuz I thought to myself, oh my God. What is this last trip? Maybe that's my last trip. What if they take over again? What if I can never go back there and that's why I was like, we have to do this now. I asked my friend Max and Paloma, if they would come to Afghanistan and within a few months, we were ready to leave. Okay? Something new is happening. Then she calls now. The trip came out the same way. I think I can't remember, but I think it was Alexis like, left, Kelly's like instruments. They have in record this album and then I had some other point was like we just go there. I'm going to get to play with people who are going to these amazing. Musicians, number one, number two coming from a culture playing entrance. I don't get to play with our use and you know, one of the guys, you know, he was an old man with the last, the last of his kind. You know, after I stop I'm going to go over there and absorb everything I can do their instruments. We destroyed or they'd be killed. These men were Elders. Have seen the whole thing. They saw Afghanistan before when it was free and I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know. But I'm excited to find out. We don't have the dates yet but it'll be approximately three weeks, maybe less in June. And the US and Max but I will say that there's definitely like a risk. It's not like, you know, it's not totally safe that's why I just wanted to sit down and talk with you. That it seems like stuff is really escalated there since I could fall. It has definitely changed in 2002. For me, it's like I want to go make this album now because you still camp in a year. I don't know, right? I knew that if the Taliban regained control music would be banned and those sounds could be lost forever. So I want you to just tell me about how your family is feeling about this. They feel for me that this trip came about suddenly and that maybe I'm making a rash decision about it. They also have Spoken to a few of their friends that one of which worked for the Foreign Service, who said that it was, he thought it was a reckless decision to go there for something that he didn't views very important. Wilder. They they did not go to work. Are brighter than is my day. Brent Coble in the airport. Hi. Christine is going invisible. I can I apply the people look so they just look. So distraught was really. firework, a turn on the front door. I feel your spirit world has the best acoustic. Yeah. There you have it there and we put the Divide is much better. This is totally fine. We're here. Hey. Can be the syndrome. You can look at them, too. But that's not the man. I'm obviously Blown Away by the musician, their incredible. I'm not sure like what I expected but it's really, really exciting to think about working with them. Peanut butter in ounces. I may have to bake baking bacon. It's beef baked bacon. So why should I be indulging in protein and all that fighting stuff? Yeah, like one, you know. I was asking dad. Don't put that grease down the sink. Yeah, cuz I have a fighter. That's a good thing though because, you know, I still haven't 38 years doesn't pain me. When I signed up for the Foreign Service, I looked at the list and I said to my sister, you know, I'm thinking I may want to go to India, but I know I'm going to end up in Afghanistan. I had gone to the library and found whatever books I can find any can't stand. It wasn't that much back then, but there was the book Caravans. It was about an American girl, and she leaves her husband. She goes well, with the cream cheese and I read about the pictures and I was fascinated. Who are these people like while I couldn't wait to go there. My friend. Ainger in artist so we decided we wouldn't go see the pooches. I said we need to have something extra special because I have a friend, always really good to ask in front of me. So I don't want to be with any Western Afghans, fries. I don't like being around them and stole this from, he's really special. So, I went to her house or the morning and then she was making Kahlua. And when she saw me, She didn't like the way I was dressed because of a small Western. She was expecting to see an Afghan coming from the coochie camp or somewhere that young guy. You know, 23 or so in any distress in western clothes and he had sunglasses on and he had an ascot scarf and I looked at him and I said to him, I just want you to know, I cannot stand western African and it was my reading tip. Pacific blue cheese, can you stop sneezing a whole bunch of baby camels. And I just went. And then all the sudden. I see this coming down the mountain, he is, literally his eyes are gold. He was so handsome. I looked at him and I said, to know her, Who is now know what is it? My question. How do you think that man is handsome? He was. He's handsome and the bands that you know, and I want to marry her. I'll give you three camels. Can you say Norman Thomas? I bless you. Taking the three counts when my mom left Afghanistan. My dad, really missed her. He left for London to study economics. The following year my mom travel to Paris and my dad met up with her there. As I was walking out, type somehow, I turn back and I said, what does, what do you think about Maggie satara? And his answer was, I don't know why you're not married one night. He said. And he was talkin, and talkin and talkin in circles, and what do you think, would you ever live in Afghanistan? He was going on and on, and on, I'm talking to hours. And I finally said to him, What are you trying to say? Or are you? Are you trying to ask me to marry you? Because if you're trying to ask me to marry you I mean then you should just ask me cuz someday if my grandchildren asked me about this I want to be able to tell the story. Then we flew to California, then we let me know what our first child. So I was born in January 1971, two years after And then yes mean was born September 27th 1972. Equipment that we have here is the other than our instrument to the computer with Pro Tools, everything else that we need, we're getting from this television radio station are the only place to record in all of Afghanistan base that we have no other option. So we're sharing our equipment with them cuz they need the equipment to record with their lending it to us in. Good faith. I mean. More about the equipment. Which instrument do you want to use and record game? So that we can all of record together. So there's so many musicians, and what we're going to do is basically we need everything on the list. We need to take it to the home, and we're going to set up the studio in my parents. Are you? Thank you for you that you can. America. I love it. I just got here a couple days ago having a good time. School. I don't need a bodyguard video, new video. A la carte. Dad, dad. A bomb timer bomb, went off in a police to call the police vehicle and killed 35, Afghan policeman bus, the police bus and then they had a remote to 35. People were killed Tara It is very difficult to get things done in Kabul. So the fact that Tolo TV was lending us the quipment and an engineer for free was incredible. But we would only have them for days and we weren't sure when the musicians would arrive. Has made a drum sticks. Even like you know there's also a man at like been our personal attrition for the last half-hour. The cigar, tell me a perfect. He also figured out all the elect electric stuff on the PA system. I don't have the cojones to do it. Because I'm prone to let your Fusion. so, as you can see, down here with the wires going right in That was the first MacGyver maneuver and I'm sure it won't be the last. Pharmacy. Rihanna. But, didn't they? Benadryl. You know how to say? Like I don't know how to say that the song Sometimes or half half. RC half English ones. How to save? Is not a good dictionary. Sorry to English. You'll see it will play it. Give me try a different song. This is so hard. I don't know how to say what I need to set. My mom. Even painted very much. I changed. The meaning of the song, the words are about the words exchanged a lot. And the words are now more about rest is more about not having a home, the 3rd of August. Well, it makes sense that such was the other day. So far is in the biggest challenge. It's because it's their song, right? And they were really funny, they were kind of just like, what are you doing? Did you see the real version? Need a few wooden or delawari who is the director of the free Afghanistan Alliance. A group dedicated to raising money and support for the Reconstruction of Afghanistan. And if and when the Soviet troops withdraw, his father was a high official with the government was overthrown by the present communist government there. And the mister delawari who was studying here at the time of his father's imprisonment has never gone home. Welcome to your fighter, mr. Delawari you are one of those who is trying to educate Us in America, to the true circumstances even though you have not been home for many years, but your father died, when he was in prison and lost his job because of the coup, first, two lawyers in Afghanistan and after finishing, that became talk him out of the governor of another area. And then the last You have a nice ship, he had was imposed on when not a shock came. As father, my father came back to Kabul, he remain with his royal family for a from the beginning until the end for over 40 years. And out of that for years, 35-year of that he was a few minutes of Raikou. Welcome by officials of the cabinet and the Parliament, the king, and his party proceed to the mosque to him. The people look for guidance in times of Peace, as well, as in times of trouble, Daddy, can you tell us where we're headed. And we're going to know what this is called. This is center of town is no, but it's right under those TV antennas in, this is the place. I was born 1960. Remove to Shaheed. if we live there, until I left, Is my grandfather's babe. That's my father's name. My home is you see this is red building just before that. There's a house a new house, right? Next to that is a window. That is a house where I was born and grew up until I was My Teenage life. Call Michael Jordan. Just Rihanna. Call Michael Jordan. Immokalee Casino. Your home. The rebel stands alone. Just Dance. Call Michael Jordan. Waterproof spray. Powerstroke generator generator as of last night. Not working. What's happening with the generator MacGyver? Please turn to charge the battery with instead of other. I don't know. Ask me anything about it. I think a lot of my feeling for Afghanistan in my devotion to happen there and to raising awareness about it comes from my relationship with maker. This is where my dad mother used to live. I spent a lot of time with her. She was from Afghanistan and she came here. The year. I was born and I was like her daughter practically The song. Oh Lalo is actually part of it. Is this Afghan nursery rhyme that she used to sing to me. I wrote my own versus like around that sort of like rhyme with a crisp, but she was a huge influence on my life, just the sort of peace and unconditional love that she brought my life. Barbara Salas. What about what about you? Givenchy barrage. But it was a joke. Doughboy furniture. The lamps are going to stand, is older than anything and no matter who it is, that comes here to try to take the land they can. So the song is about about that about never giving up in about that these that they can't take it. Nobody cuz nobody can hold you down at honest. Haircuts in Japanese. He was doing a little LOL. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be like, We already did it. He starts it. Okay. You are welcome. Egyptian music. I want it for that. Prince Royce. Glowing behind Aldi espresso. South Africa. LOL. Couple weeks ago, there was a suicide bombing in an attack, on the Cobblestone Hotel. I stayed at that hotel. My parents were living there for a while. Like it was really close to home and my mom's good friend from work with kill. My mom was really crashed and it was just very close to how my dad was across the street at the bank and it happened. So he kind of just Maybe realize again. Why why I'm doing this and why I have to do this? This is what I would be reporting momentarily. I brought on board musicians and producers to help finish the album. On my way to a higher state of mind. You are my. Family Tahoe. All alone with this Heart of Mine. Lost and lonely. You don't find mine. You are my family. You are my partner in crime. You did teach me how to fly. Song. Show me. Sorry, beautiful. Do you have like hugs or something? That I feel like lipstick Rita. Yeah. David Lynch had come to my very first show as I was finishing the album. He said he wanted to produce the song, mix the whole record and put it out on his new label. It was very nice to work with Ariana and see a song, Get get born and, and grow and take shape. And then in in finishing the album we all hear everything on the big speakers. You realize that there's still more work that can be done. I too perfect. A thing to get the same two to check to the highest level possible. Beautiful faces. Come out and take a break. I want you to go in and do some vocals. Hey, I have take all. I have because you're rushing at your little bit on the first one. Okay. I got it. Yeah, all of it. All of it. It's not about to have. It's about to be a little happier. A little happier. And then on the chorus, Get you, no, get in there and really sore, really sore and just give it the business and don't listen to anything. I say just feel it, but feel optimistic. 15 in the morning on Thursday. Ready to go to work. My heart was breaking because Afghanistan kept getting worse. Just before the release the record. I went back to see my parents. What's playing at sometimes you think you never know when you going to call it, the good old days, maybe someday, we'll call this a good old days but it's so different now. It's not the same. Like for me to 4 Catherine Street, in Norman say, I used to go to just get out and walk around and take a photograph or video without a got with just a driver. I can't even get a lot of things have changed since. when we were in the car, My woman with a chowder. You like the burger. I came up to the window and I'd like to get the camera out the window and he rolled it up and I pulled the camera and and then the driver were both. Like, you don't understand, we have a bomb under her occasional incident You must have found a very difficult coming back here. And I imagine that your experience right now is really intense when I go to an orphanage or a refugee camp, and I meet with kids and they look at me with so much hoping they remember my name. And I feel like all of those kids that I photographed, her, I connected with, I made a promise to you, whether I said it or not, I come back like and I either, there's corruption bureaucracy. You know, people who are in positions of power, abusing the power and it's been 7 years, not a cop The album came out on October 13th 2009. There was a lot of press and critical praise but deep down I felt awful Afghanistan was still a mess and it was getting worse. I kept thinking about all the people I met there and how their lives would change if the Taliban regain control of the country. From the time that I came here in 2002 and now its 2009 Afghanistan has changed and the atmosphere. And the security is not like it was before. Now, at the point, I am in my life, I have one of my three children, but I have three grandchildren, I miss so much of their life and then I think she know I got to spend more time back there and so I do think sometimes I'm going back, but I know I'll always be living in the two half and one country have from the other. So I'll always be in both countries. My mom moved back. Shortly after my last visit to Afghanistan, she bought a house in Los Angeles. My father stayed in Afghanistan, his post, as governor of the central bank had ended in 2007, when he fell three votes, shy of confirmation. By the parliament, he went back to running. I sat and became a minister advisor to president Karzai on banking in the private sector. Is it hard to be away from Dad? Sometimes. Yes, but I have to do what I have to do and he has to do what he has to do. And he's bombarded with work. My dad came home for a quick visit. He was under a lot of stress Afghanistan's entire economy was hinging on collapse. After the discovery that couple Bank. The country's largest private bank had made hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent loans to some powerful and corrupt Afghans. There were suspicions that the acting governor of the Central Bank was in on it word quickly. Spread that my dad would be asked to replace him when I turn it on, This morning, I woke up and I heard you and Mom talking about how he might become the governor of the central bank. Again Well that's something has been talked about because the vacuum system, which I made a lot of contributions toward reform of the Central Bank been lately. We more suffering president is very much concerned about these meetings with it. I would like to see that the system, which we all work so hard in the human stuff that's kind of standard reconstruction to, you know, to Safford Road. As I see, it is happening today in months after my dad returned to Afghanistan. We woke up one morning to an alarming email from him. Today is March 2011 and we just got the email. From my husband from Lord, that the people from the Attorney General's office, showed up at his office and took him to detention center, and they kept in there for 4 hours, questioning him about a contract that was, that was signed back in 2003 at that time. Nor was on the commission that handles Ariana airlines that a contract to pay Lufthansa airlines to be a consultant and work with them to update Ariana. And now, it doesn't make any sense to me. Eight years later that they bring them into the office and arrest him when he was just on the commission and this was the money. Clearly went to left on the airline's. I didn't go to any one else. This was a legitimate idea that the president had and so now years later they're questioning this judgment that was made and they arrested him for it and question. For 4 hours. I mean, it makes the country's Ludacris Ludacris as we started to read more more stories. I was very concerned for my father because I became very clear to me that somebody was targeting him that he was standing in the way of someone who could profit if he was out of the way. Within days, I woke up to an LA Times blog. Connecting my music to the corruption charges against my dad. It's just so frustrating that I cannot say anything and that my dad is falsely accused. Literally my Dad's life is in danger and so I had to be really delicate about how I reacted Somebody is going to. We won't be able to get it out. And I was thinking we should try to see. Yeah, good for. This corruption is so horrible and it's everybody practically. Well, right now, I went and bought some phone calls cuz I'm going to call him up and talk to him on the phone. March 30th, 2011, Ariana, John, thanks for your comforting words. I do feel very stressful but nothing will affect my faith in God. The day before yesterday, right after I was released from some kind of detention. I was asked to meet with the president. The event had caused me so much hurt and disbelief, when I was greeted with the usual Embrace, I could not hold my emotion. I told the president that as a member of your government, they have destroyed my reputation. I hope you will Rectify it at the present time. I feel depressed and confused all these past years. Since I've come back here, I considered my presents a privilege. Now, I am so angry. I almost hate this place. Love you, Dad. I wouldn't tell my sisters and my mom this because I know that how they feel about things, but like I don't. Honestly, I don't really want my dad to leave. I know they want my dad to come home and I know it's safe for him to come home. but, if he leaves stay away, and if he leaves, Then he doesn't continue his work. I mean if it's about as hell yeah that's one thing. But I know my dad and I don't think he feels like he's finished his work there and If the, if they chased out the honest people, by trying to call them thieves, or trying to have bad press about them, so that it scares them away. Then who's left out the people Dad, what were you saying? I'm very happy with what I'm doing today. What we ask is not a question. Forgot. I think it's a great mistake if the Free World would ignore what's going on in Afghanistan. 10. ```json [{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"NewsArticle","@id":"https://time.com/6206423/ariana-delawari-we-came-home-afghanistan-interview/","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://time.com/6206423/ariana-delawari-we-came-home-afghanistan-interview/"},"headline":"This Filmmaker Set Out To Record Her Family’s Journey Rebuilding Afghanistan. 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