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# The Story Behind TIME’s Dueling Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi Cover

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## D.W. Pine


Pine is the Creative Director at TIME.

Jan 10, 2019 11:53 AM UTC

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Illustration by Jason Seiler for TIME

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## D.W. Pine


Pine is the Creative Director at TIME.

Jan 10, 2019 11:53 AM UTC

For the Jan. 21, 2018, [TIME cover on the showdown between President Trump and Nancy Pelosi’s Democrats](http://time.com/5498900/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi-battle/), we assigned Chicago-based artist Jason Seiler, a classically trained oil painter who also works digitally, to create an image that could capture this moment in Washington.

It is the second cover Seiler has created for TIME, although the images featured two completely different styles. For the 2013 Person of the Year cover, [Seiler painted a beautifully realistic portrait of Pope Francis](http://poy.time.com/2013/12/11/behind-person-of-the-year-cover-jason-seiler/).

![Dec. 23, 2013](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltfb416cc6ae366df5/6988633b524fc002dbdf4771/1101131223_600.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Pope Francis, Person of the Year, on the Dec. 23, 2013, cover of TIME Cover Credit: PORTRAIT BY JASON SEILER FOR TIME

This week’s cover features Seiler’s well-known caricature style in order to depict the dueling nature of the current climate in Washington—each player armed with his or her own weapon.

As [TIME’s Molly Ball writes in her piece](http://time.com/magazine), “step back from the sordid details, and you could hardly get a more illustrative tableau of America’s new political reality: a nonfunctioning federal government whose leaders—each insisting the stakes are too high to budge—have retreated to their corners.”


Seiler created the cover with a Wacom Cintiq, a pressure sensitive LCD screen which allows him to draw and paint directly on the screen. He spent more than 50 hours creating this week’s cover on deadline.

Seiler has worked as a character designer on Tim Burton’s “Alice in Wonderland and has been an art instructor for Schoolism.com, the online art school created by Imaginism Studios in Toronto. He recently painted six postal stamps for the USPS Forever Series. Seiler is also the host of an art podcast called _Face the Truth,_ which can be found on iTunes and most other podcast apps.


## Transcript

Well unfortunately, the President just got up and walked out. He asked Speaker Pelosi, will you agree to my wall? She said no, and he just got up and said, then we have nothing to discuss, and he just walked out. Again, we saw a temper tantrum, because he couldn't get his way, and he just walked out of the meeting. I asked him to open up the government. That tomorrow, so many people will have trouble paying their mortgages, paying their bills, dealing with situations when they don't get paid. And I said just why won't you do that? We'll continue to discuss. We're willing to discuss anything And he said if I open up the Government, you won't do what I want.

That's cruel, that's callous, and that's using millions of innocent people as sort of pawns. And it was wrong. And then, a few minutes later, he sort of Slam the table and when leader Pelosi said she didn't agree with the wall, he just walked out and said, we have nothing to discuss. He said it was a waste of his time. He said it was a waste of his time. That is sad and unfortunate. We wanna come to an agreement. We believe in border security. We have different views. We've already offered the President our proposals which has sat on his desk for several weeks. But this was really, really unfortunate and in my judgment somewhat unbecoming of a president.

Presidency. He asked Speaker Pelosi that if he opened things up quickly, if he reopened the government quickly, would she be willing to agree to funding for a wall or a barrier on the southern border. And when she said no, the president said goodbye. How does it help that the president walked out of the How is that getting closer to a solution? Well I think the President made his position very clear today, that there will be no deal without a wall. There will be no deal without the priorities the President has put on the table.

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