--- title: Seth Meyers Thinks He Knows What Trump Thinks About Pence description: Here's what Seth Meyers thinks Donald Trump is secretly thinking when he listens to vice president Mike Pence speak. canonical: https://time.com/5116350/seth-meyers-trump-inner-voice/ author: Cady Lang article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2018-01-24T15:48:01.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-04-13T07:50:00.869Z og:title: Seth Meyers Imagines What Trump Is Thinking When Pence Speaks og:description: A special investigation og:url: https://time.com/5116350/seth-meyers-trump-inner-voice/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt483fa9189b5a6041/6988f95586f68e733f6e805a/seth-meyers-donald-trump-tiny-voice-mike-pence.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: Late Night with Seth Meyers - Season 4 og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: Seth Meyers Imagines What Trump Is Thinking When Pence Speaks twitter:description: A special investigation twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt483fa9189b5a6041/6988f95586f68e733f6e805a/seth-meyers-donald-trump-tiny-voice-mike-pence.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # Seth Meyers Thinks He Knows Exactly What Trump Thinks When Pence Talks  by [Cady Lang](https://time.com/author/cady-lang/)  ## Cady Lang Jan 24, 2018 3:48 PM UTC  LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS -- Episode 637 -- Pictured: Host Seth Meyers at his desk on January 18, 2018 -- (Photo by: Lloyd Bishop/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images) LATE NIGHT WITH SETH MEYERS -- Episode 637 -- Pictured: Host Seth Meyers at his desk on January 18, 2018 -- (Photo by: Lloyd Bishop/NBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images)NBC—NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images  by [Cady Lang](https://time.com/author/cady-lang/)  ## Cady Lang Jan 24, 2018 3:48 PM UTC [Seth Meyers](http://time.com/4979299/seth-meyers-eminem-rap-bet-donald-trump/) is delving deep into the [psyche](http://time.com/collection/guide-to-happiness/4882372/social-media-facebook-instagram-unhappy/) of President [Donald Trump](http://time.com/5113472/donald-trump-solar-panel-tariff/) with a special [_Late Night with Seth Meyers_](http://time.com/5091821/seth-meyers-golden-globes-monologue/) investigation. The late night host jokingly divulged that his team has tapped into the ability of recording the “tiny voice that is inside Donald Trump’s head.” “You might be surprised to know that, like everyone’s inner voice, Donald Trump’s is filled with paralyzing fear and self-doubt,” Meyers said. Meyers used this insight to imagine what that tiny voice was thinking during a video clip that showed Trump standing next to vice president Mike Pence, while seemingly giving him some side-eye, something that Meyers imagined was masking some very insecure internal dialogue. “Hey Donald, it’s me, the tiny voice in the back of your head,” Meyers as Trump’s inner voice said. “Are you thinking what I am thinking because I am thinking that Mike Pence looks a lot more like a president than you do. I mean, look at him. He’s killing it right now, speaking in complete sentences, turning the page each time he finishes a page, not making insane gestures. He looks like a real president.” That wasn’t the only dig that Meyers had for Trump via this inner voice, however; he gave a backhanded compliment to Pence while continuing to highlight Trump’s seeming insecurity. “And look at you, you look like a guy who won a contest to stand next to a president. I mean, he’s a complete freak and all but at least he can fake being normal. 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