--- title: Game of Thrones: What Did Bran Stark Say to Littlefinger? description: Littlefinger spoke to Bran Stark for the first time in Game of Thrones, but the conversation didn't exactly seem to go how he planned. canonical: https://time.com/4889240/game-of-thrones-bran-stark-littlefinger-chaos-conversation/ author: Megan McCluskey article:opinion: false article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2017-08-07T03:17:48.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-02-23T16:52:55.527Z article:section: Entertainment og:title: The Significance of Bran's Cryptic Conversation With Littlefinger on Game of Thrones og:description: "Chaos is a ladder" og:url: https://time.com/4889240/game-of-thrones-bran-stark-littlefinger-chaos-conversation/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte1f217f2c2330e76/6988d89efb4eac1eb889333c/game-of-thrones-the-spoils-of-war-bran-arya-stark.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 675 og:image:alt: Game-of-Thrones-The-Spoils-of-War-Bran-Arya-Stark og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: The Significance of Bran's Cryptic Conversation With Littlefinger on Game of Thrones twitter:description: "Chaos is a ladder" twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte1f217f2c2330e76/6988d89efb4eac1eb889333c/game-of-thrones-the-spoils-of-war-bran-arya-stark.jpg?branch=production&width=3840&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # The Significance of Bran Stark's Cryptic Conversation With Littlefinger on _Game of Thrones_ > Sponsored content. 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Terms and conditions apply. * Savings buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Savings Account. * No ATM fees from Ally Bank at Allpoint and Moneypass ATMs plus we reimburse for fees charged by other ATM owners nationwide up to $10 per statement cycle. * Early direct deposit offers eligible direct deposits up to two days sooner. * Spending buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Spending Account.  by [Megan McCluskey](https://time.com/author/megan-mccluskey/)  ## Megan McCluskey Staff Writer Aug 7, 2017 3:17 AM UTC  Isaac Hempstead Wright and Maisie Williams in Game of Thrones Isaac Hempstead Wright and Maisie Williams in Game of ThronesHelen Sloan/HBO  by [Megan McCluskey](https://time.com/author/megan-mccluskey/)  ## Megan McCluskey Staff Writer Aug 7, 2017 3:17 AM UTC **Warning:** This post contains spoilers for season seven of [_Game of Thrones_](http://time.com/game-of-thrones-2017/). [Littlefinger](http://time.com/4883196/game-of-thrones-littlefinger-scroll-dagger-theory/) spoke to [Bran Stark](http://time.com/4882189/game-of-thrones-bran-stark-sansa-three-eyed-raven/) for the first time in Sunday’s episode of _Game of Thrones_, but the conversation didn’t exactly go very well. After Littlefinger gifted Bran — or as he now thinks of himself, the Three-Eyed Raven — with the [Valyrian steel dagger](http://time.com/4860875/game-of-thrones-samwell-tarly-citadel-dragonglass/) used by the cutthroat who tried to assassinate him, the young Stark son asked if he knew who the blade had belonged to. “No. That very question was what started the War of the Five Kings,” Littlefinger replied. “In a way, that dagger made you what you are today. Forced from your home, driven out to the wilds beyond the Wall…To go through all of that and make your way home again only to find such chaos in the world, I can only imagine—” “Chaos is a ladder,” Bran interrupted. **MORE:** **To stay up to date on everything** **_Game of Thrones_** **, follow our all-encompassing** [**Facebook**](https://www.facebook.com/WiCnet/?utm%5Fsource=time&utm%5Fmedium=article&utm%5Fcampaign=wicfacebook)[ **page**](https://www.facebook.com/WiCnet/?utm%5Fsource=time&utm%5Fmedium=article&utm%5Fcampaign=wicfacebook) **and sign up for our** [**exclusive** ](https://pages.email.ew.com/game-of-thrones?utm%5Fsource=time.com&utm%5Fmedium=referral&utm%5Fcampaign=gameofthronesnewsletter)[**newsletter**](https://pages.email.ew.com/game-of-thrones?utm%5Fsource=time.com&utm%5Fmedium=referral&utm%5Fcampaign=gameofthronesnewsletter)**.** The comment seemed to be a reference to a season three discussion between Littlefinger and Varys. “Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder,” Littlefinger told the Spider after he handed Ros over to Joffrey for double-crossing him. “Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.” The remark clearly gave Littlefinger pause, as it seemed to show that Bran may know things that could create problems for him. Now all that remains is for Bran to let Sansa and Arya in on these secrets. 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