Casteel noted that Obama shattered a glass ceiling when she became the first woman of color to hold the title of First Lady, and asked which of the “falling glass shards” cut the deepest, according to the Denver Post. Obama mentioned the racist attacks she endured while in office, including being called an “ape in heels” by a former West Virginia official, who was later fired for the controversial comments.
“The shards that cut me the deepest were the ones that intended to cut,” Obama said, according to the Post. “Knowing that after eight years of working really hard for this country, there are still people who won’t see me for what I am because of my skin color.”
Obama, who also reiterated that she has no plans to run for office, said that it wasn’t productive to pretend that those attacks didn’t hurt.
Instead, she said that it’s important that women embrace their scars and resilience. “Women, we endure those cuts in so many ways that we don’t even notice we’re cut,” she said. “We are living with small tiny cuts, and we are bleeding every single day. And we’re still getting up.”