Gretchen Carlson’s 4 Tips for Overcoming Setbacks

The year 2016 was quite an eventful one for former Fox News host Gretchen Carlson. She got fired from her job (and not for the first time), sued the boss of the network that fired her, won a reported $20 million settlement and, oh, yeah, got on the cover of Time magazine.

How do you survive a year like that, especially when you’re in the public eye? What do you tell your kids? Carlson sat down with me at our TIME offices to offer up four tips on how to slog on when the going gets tough: when you get fired, trolled, subjected to a double standard or have to explain tough stuff to your children.

“No matter how hard you work, you’re never going to get everyone to like you in life,” Carlson said her dad told her. “So you work on those you think you can change and those that you can’t, you disregard.”