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# Joe Biden Discussed Running in 2020 With Stephen Colbert: 'Never Say Never'

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## Cady Lang


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[Vice President Joe Biden](http://time.com/4591253/joe-biden-national-treasure/) dispensed advice to the country during a comedic “family meeting” with [Stephen Colbert on Tuesday night’s _The Late Show_](http://time.com/4574771/stephen-colbert-donald-trump-twitter-press/).

Biden, comparing the current state of American politics to familial strife, offered some advice: “It happens to every family, but I’m telling you — this terrible feeling you’re having right now, it’s not permanent,” Biden said. “It’ll be over in four years — maybe eight.”

Biden and Colbert also discussed the possibility of Biden running for president in 2020, [following his comments to reporters on Monday that although he would be open to running in the next presidential election](http://time.com/4591498/joe-biden-president-election-2020/), he wasn’t ready to commit to it.

“You and I talked about this in a different context before: I’m a great respecter of fate,” Biden said. “I don’t plan on running again, but to say you know it’s going to happen in four years I just think is not rational.”

Colbert took this as a hint at a possible Biden ticket in 2020.

“That is the sound of a door creaking open,” Colbert said.

“I can’t see the circumstance in which I’d run, but what I learned a long, long time ago, Stephen, is to never say never,” Biden rejoined. “You don’t know what’s going to happen. Hell, Donald Trump’s going to be 74, I’ll be 77 — and in better shape. What the heck?”

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