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# The True History Behind Ramsay Bolton's Shocking Move on _Game of Thrones_

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_Published 2016-04-22. Professor Christopher Fee discusses the history of dragons in our culture and their relevance today._


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## Lily Rothman


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May 2, 2016 5:43 PM UTC

Professor Christopher Fee discusses the history of dragons in our culture and their relevance today. 

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## Lily Rothman


Rothman is managing editor at TIME.

May 2, 2016 5:43 PM UTC

**_Warning: Spoilers follow for_** **Game of Thrones** **_, Season 6 Episode 2_**

_Game of Thrones_ may be the only show on television on which the feeding of a newborn to vicious hounds is[ not the most shocking thing ](http://time.com/4313745/game-of-thrones-jon-snow-dead-alive/)that happens in a given episode.

Still, it was pretty extreme—and on Sunday night’s episode, Ramsay Bolton’s string of familial murders was not limited to his baby half-brother’s demise. His stepmother went to the dogs as well, while his father met a less gruesome end at the point of a knife. The sequence was not merely a reminder of the character’s villainy, but also one more example of the [reliance on real history](http://time.com/3921873/7-times-game-of-thrones-drew-on-history-this-season/) in the George R.R. Martin books and TV show. After all, though Ramsay and his father did argue about military strategy, the catalyst for the crimes was something else: the baby’s birth, and the news that Lord Bolton had another son.

[_Get your history fix in one place: sign up for the weekly TIME History newsletter_](http://time.com/newsletter)

As viewers were reminded, Ramsay started life as Lord Bolton’s illegitimate son, though he was later acknowledged by his father as a rightful heir. The new baby, by contrast, was born within the confines of a recognized marriage. In the fictional world of Westeros, different regions rely on different inheritance structures—for example, the practice of the [Kingsmoot](http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/what-is-a-kingsmoot.html), which was also acknowledged on Sunday’s episode, complicates monarchic succession on the Iron Islands—but it’s generally a world in which legitimate birth is highly valued. (Common last names, like Snow, are used to signal illegitimacy.) It is also generally a culture in which male heirs take their fathers’ titles, skipping over female heirs.

That structure, though fictional, is rooted in the longstanding real-world practice known as primogeniture. For noble families, primogeniture was often coupled with an entail linking an estate and a title.


The basic idea of primogeniture is that the first-born, and in many cases the first-born son, gets everything. That means Ramsay Bolton is on track to inherit his father’s money, armies, title and any other perks of nobility. Should a baby brother challenge his legitimacy, however, he might stand to lose everything, as the system makes no provisions for sharing. (Younger sons, and often daughters, had to depend on gifts.)

“Illegitimate sons are not supposed to inherit at all. No matter what the father said, there was going to be a fight,” explains Nancy Goldstone, author of _The Rival Queens_ and an expert in medieval history.”Even if the father said he was going to leave the estate \[to an illegitimate child\], there was going to be a contest after he died.”

**MORE:** [Thrones Are No Game](http://time.com/4292353/game-of-thrones-vs-real-thrones/)

The original thinking behind primogeniture is that if you split up estates between the various children, after a couple of generations even the mightiest landowner’s holdings would be reduced to a patchwork of smaller estates. By giving everything to one heir, the size and power of the family is preserved. Though there were some alternate systems in use around medieval Europe, as Eileen Spring explains in her book [_Law, Land, and Family_](https://books.google.com/books?id=%5FoZhCQAAQBAJ&dq=primogeniture+medieval&source=gbs%5Fnavlinks%5Fs), pre-modern England was home to a notoriously strict version of this rule. One possible reason for that quirk was that, after the Norman Conquest in the 11th century, England boasted a strong enough monarchy that the king didn’t have reason to worry about noble families getting too powerful by holding onto what they had. Of course, as _Thrones_ fans will note, pretty much the opposite is true in Westeros.


And in the real world, Goldstone notes, acknowledging an illegitimate son was way harder than it is on _Game of Thrones_. In England, a petition would have had to have gone all the way to the Pope or, after the Church of England was created, the King.

Perhaps the most famous example of traditional English inheritance law making people do pretty awful things can be found in another fictional drama: [_King Lear_](https://books.google.com/books?id=q0oRI8e-TgwC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=primogeniture+and+illegitimate+sons&source=bl&ots=JfpVMMS9JF&sig=Lp1MeOOWXQr89uCY34ucba6mxjk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNj7nj57vMAhVKPj4KHRdoDv4Q6AEISTAI#v=onepage&q=primogeniture%20and%20illegitimate%20sons&f=false). Not only does an inheritance mess start the whole Lear family saga, but the side conflict between the sons of the Earl of Gloucester—one legitimate, Edgar, and one illegitimate, Edmund—highlights the tensions that can arise when only one son at a time can benefit from a father’s standing in society.

**MORE:** [_Game of Thrones_ and the True History of Dragons](http://time.com/4294397/game-of-thrones-history-dragons/)

In the U.S., [abolishing residual British primogeniture law](http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/georgia-constitution-abolishes-primogeniture-and-entail) was an early priority after the Revolution. But the history of primogeniture is still a relatively recent one: though default primogeniture for people who died without a will was ended in the U.K. in 1925, it was only in 2011 that the British monarchy [changed its rules](http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2098162,00.html) to allow first-born daughters to claim the throne before their brothers. In 2013, the British parliament also considered a “[_Downton_](http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/30/this-downton-abbey-inspired-law-would-finally-allow-women-to-inherit-noble-titles/) law” that would allow female heirs to inherit nobility titles—the law did not end up passing, though a version of it is [still](http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/successiontopeerages.html) being considered.


## Transcript

Well, dragons never seem to go away do they? They occur in culture after culture. They occur in story after story. The idea of. Of being able to live in world full of magical creatures well that offers a certain excitement and joy and curiosity. Dragons are like a canvas upon which we paint our fears and desires as a culture and I think they remain relevant because they change with us. [ MUSIC ] Well in today's world we often define a dragon as a giant, scaly, winged reptilian beast, often can breathe fire. In the ancient world this wasn't always the case. They were very often giant serpents of various kinds.

And they could be also multivalent. In the Asian world for example, dragons are often Symbols of good luck, good fortune. While in the biblical tradition, on the other hand, dragons are clearly evil. In the middle ages, dragons were indeed emblems of greed, avarice. Most people in America today would know that through the Hobbit and Smaug the dragon who was clearly developed on that exact theme and that In the Arthurian tradition, dragons are associated with the rise of a mighty, powerful, royal house, as well with omens and portents having to do with their demise. It seems to me that in Game of Thrones, this association with royalty and portents comes most clearly from the Arthurian tradition which Dragons might represents [ UNKNOWN ] [ MUSIC ] One of the ways that dragons myth spread was through travellers coming back with stories of dragons.

So imagine if you will that, you travelled to North Africa from England When the 12th to 13th century and you saw a crocodile wouldn't that appear to you to be a monstrous, demonic beast? In our culture, dragons tell us about that which we fear not just out on the world like a crocodile but within ourselves like greed. Game of Thrones Plays with our sense of light and darkness, the best of humanity and the worst of humanity. And this tension is developed fully in the symbol of the dragon. Because the dragon, Dragon represents great power, but it also represents greed and destruction. And this bring together of these ideas tell us something about ourselves.

Both what we fear, what we want, and what we would like to be. [ BLANK_AUDIO ]

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