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How Hillary Clinton Knocked Carly Fiorina on Paid Family Leave

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Hillary Clinton criticized Republican rival Carly Fiorina over paid family leave at the Democratic debate Tuesday.

CNN moderator Dana Bash asked Clinton to respond directly to Fiorina, the only other woman running on either side and an opponent of federal paid family leave, which she says would provide a disincentive for businesses to hire women.

“I’m surprised she says that because California has had a paid leave program for a number of years … and it has not had the ill effects that the Republicans are always saying it will have,” Clinton said. “We can design a system and pay for it that does not put the burden on small business.”

Clinton then took it one step further, broadening the argument to hit the whole Republican field and zero in on Fiorina’s attacks on Planned Parenthood.

“They don’t mind having big government to interfere with a woman’s right to choose and to take down Planned Parenthood,” Clinton said of Republicans. “I’m sick of it. We should not be paralyzed by the Republicans and their constant refrain of ‘big government this’ and ‘big government that’ … I know we can afford it because we will make the wealthy pay for it,” she said of a federal family and medical leave program.

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