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Heath Ledger as the Joker in "The Dark Knight."
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In a world where Harry Potter and Daniel LaRusso can be considered villains, is the Joker actually a hero? That’s the suggestion from Reddit user generalzee, who wrote an 829-word piece explaining how Heath Ledger’s iconic Dark Knight baddie was actually the hero of the film. He helped turn a city that was overrun by crime and chaos into a more peaceful place by uniting its citizens and removing the element of vigilante justice employed by Batman. Here’s generalzee:

This isn’t the first time a fan theory tried to suggest one of the villains in Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy of films was actually working on the side of good. Back in November, another Reddit user posited that Bane was trying to help Gotham through his series of coordinated terror attacks by bringing Batman out of retirement. “It’s sort of much more dramatic version of they dynamic between Sacha Baron-Cohen and Will Ferrell in Talladega Nights (sorry to go there),” Redditor ciociosanvstar wrote. “Bane wants to be beaten, and he’ll set up circumstances to bring about that end, but he isn’t just going to let it happen, it has to be real.”

For the full theory about the Joker, head to Reddit.

[h/t Uproxx]

This article originally appeared on EW.com

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