--- title: N-Word: If President Obama Can Say It, You Can Too description: Saying the N-Word isn't the same as using it canonical: https://time.com/3930797/obama-maron-interview/ author: John McWhorter article:opinion: true article:content_tier: free article:published_time: 2015-06-23T02:36:06.000Z article:modified_time: 2026-08-04T07:58:49.567Z article:section: Ideas og:title: "If President Obama Can Say It, You Can Too" og:description: Policing language prevents us from badly-needed discourse og:url: https://time.com/3930797/obama-maron-interview/ og:site_name: TIME og:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blta62522f32a511fdf/698855a85f570f49efb1c1be/obama8.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 og:image:width: 4396 og:image:height: 2473 og:image:alt: US President Barack Obama address the US Conference of Mayors during their annual meeting in San Francisco on June 19, 2015. og:type: article twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:title: "If President Obama Can Say It, You Can Too" twitter:description: Policing language prevents us from badly-needed discourse twitter:image: https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blta62522f32a511fdf/698855a85f570f49efb1c1be/obama8.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=16:9 ---  # If President Obama Can Say It, You Can Too > Sponsored content. 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Mandel Ngan—AFP/Getty Images by [John McWhorter](https://time.com/author/john/) ## John McWhorter Jun 23, 2015 2:36 AM UTC In many traditional cultures of Australia, it used to be [taboo](http://www.everyculture.com/wc/Afghanistan-to-Bosnia-Herzegovina/Australian-Aborigines.html) to use normal language with your mother-in-law. Instead, you had to use a whole set of different words and even grammar rules with her. She had to talk that way to you, too. That’s the kind of thing we learn about in anthropology classes. But we reveal ourselves as more like those tribal people than we suppose in the way we police language such as the N-word. A perfect [example](http://www.vox.com/2015/6/22/8824113/obama-n-word-maron) is that we even [bat an eye](http://time.com/3930623/barack-obama-n-word-wtf-podcast/) when President Barack Obama [says](http://time.com/3929917/obama-n-word-marc-maron-podcast-interview/) to Marc Maron that racism is “not just a matter of it not being polite to say nigger in public” in an [interview](http://potus.wtfpod.com/) released Monday. The issue isn’t whether Obama called someone the N-word. It has for decades been Civility 101 in American society that one does not do that without severe sanction. Where things have gotten complicated is the idea that it is equally sinful to even use the word at all. People have had a hard time wrapping their heads around the fact that referring to the word is not the same as using it. At the University of Virginia in 2003, a medical-center employee said having a football team called the Redskins is as “derogatory to Indians as having a team called Niggers would be to blacks.” This sparked a protest by the black staff, with her union head suggesting she be fired. When civil-liberties advocate Wendy Kaminer used the N-word to criticize it in a panel discussion at Smith College last fall, she was roasted for committing an “[explicit act of racial violence](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/05/wendy-kaminer-racial-slur-free-speech%5Fn%5F7521858.html).” According to the rules of our taboo, black people are allowed to use the word (including with one another to mean “buddy,” a complex matter in itself) because we have been the ones subjected to its abusive usage. Yet, it seems almost as awkward when the president, a black person, uses the word in that way as when a white one does. Is that because using the word even to refer to it should be considered beneath the dignity of anyone regardless of color? I suspect that analysis misses something. To many, hearing blacks use the N-word, even to refer to it, is awkward because of how arbitrary it seems that whites are tarred as racists when they, too, are simply referring to it. For example, I myself occasionally use the actual word in just the way that Obama did in my classes, when a societal issue comes up and I want the rhetorical clarity of the word itself rather than a coy euphemism. Occasionally one of my more vocal white students has jokingly commented “See, you can say it!” The comment carries an implication (which he would never venture out loud) that it seems a little arbitrary that I am allowed to say it just because I’m black. I just say “Yep!” and we all laugh a little and move on. But we know it feels arbitrary, not quite fully thought out, that they aren’t allowed to use the word even to refer to it. There is also the unfortunate term “Niggeritis” that refers to someone being tired after eating a lot of food. I learned of it from a white guy who couldn’t bear to utter the actual word and instead described it and let me figure it out. “Oh, just say the damned word!” I was thinking—and he should have been able to. I felt like we were Australian tribespeople drinking Sauvignon Blanc. Obama should not have to say “the N-word” when referring to the word, and I’m glad he didn’t. Whites shouldn’t have to either, if you ask me. I am now old enough to remember when the euphemism had yet to catch on. In a thoroughly enlightened 1990s journalistic culture, one could still say the whole word when talking about it. The very first media interview I ever did, a local one on the history of what I would now have to call “the N-word,” would now sound like a period piece simply because it was still OK for me to utter the word I was referring to. What have we gained since then in barring people from ever uttering the word even to discuss it—other than a fake, ticklish nicety that seems almost designed to create misunderstandings? ## Transcript From what I can tell, more whites in America believe in ghosts than believe in racism, and that's why we have shows like Ghost busters and not racist busters. [ LAUGH ] As a general rule things don't end well if the sentence starts let me tell you something I know about the Negro. People see the fact that a black American could get elected President, they see that as the end of racism. That's absolutely not the case. [ NOISE ] It's a milestone in a marathon. Just a tip for you. [ LAUGH ] Don't start your sentence that way. I think it's pretty created a false sense of achievement that we've done everything that we need to do, and that we can just slump back into being complacent. Racism, unfortunately, rears it's head in places that you would never expect at, at times that you would never expect. I think the President is in a tough position because as a Black American, if he's. Too proactive or too enthusiastic, about dealing with racism. People think he has agenda. White Americans are not a group that is targeted, so it's a surprise to many White Americans that discrimination and bias can affect people's life. They, they think it's a thing of the past. We have shows like John Stewart and Stephen Colbert they're like colonoscopies into America's bowels. You know, they're looking for the polyps of intolerance. There is no racism in America. There's more Cholera in America than there is -. Than there is racism. [ SOUND ]. More Cholera! Yes. Racism has gone the way of [ NOISE ] where you drink. [ LAUGH ] And I think that by pointing those things out and ridiculing them we get a chance to identify issues and and deal with them in a meaningful way. You know there's only one lead story today and that is the racist comments of LA Clippers owner and Darth Vader with his helmet off, Donald Sterling. [ LAUGH ]. Racism has obviously been a hot topic with regard to sports. And, and Mr. Sterling's problems, but racism as it relates to society at large is something that we don't talk about enough. And inclusion should be the keynote of, of American life. We have people from all over the world that come here, and they can become American Citizens and have a, have a wonderful life here. 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