May 15, 2015 4:47 PM EDT

George R. R. Martin may be the mastermind behind the grim Game of Thrones book series, but he has a surprisingly goofy giggle in real life. And that giggle played over and over is somewhat terrifying.

We’re not quite sure what is making Martin laugh so much in this clip, especially since the characters on the HBO adaptation of his series currently don’t have much to smile about.

In fact, there probably hasn’t been this much laughter in the Game of Thrones series, well, ever.


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