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# Photographer Who Captured Real-Life _Big Eyes_ Couple Reflects on His Subjects

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## Eliza Berman


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Feb 4, 2015 4:00 PM UTC

![Margaret and Walter Keane, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltd6edde31a72bbbd9/69877c5ee53aba04b64d7459/150128-big-eyes-01.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp&crop=3:2)

Margaret and Walter Keane, 1965.

Margaret and Walter Keane, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

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## Eliza Berman


Berman is a senior editor at TIME.

Feb 4, 2015 4:00 PM UTC

Since Tim Burton’s _Big Eyes_ brought the story of Walter and Margaret Keane to the masses, Internet sleuths have attempted to peel back the layers and get at the truth. And the search for truthiness has been rather meta: [How truthful](http://time.com/3632635/the-true-story-behind-big-eyes/) was Burton’s retelling of the untruths surrounding the Keanes’ takeover of the commercial art world?

Bill Ray, the LIFE photographer who photographed the Keanes for a [1965 story](http://books.google.com/books?id=WFMEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs%5Fge%5Fsummary%5Fr&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false), remembers the assignment with an air of levity. In a recent e-mail, Ray said it was hard to take seriously the artists behind those oversized, pleading eyes. “I was steeped in fine art from childhood and was taught more about Vermeer, Frans Hals and Van Gogh than George Washington,” he said. “I approached the story as one big joke, no matter who did them.”

The article came a year after the couple had separated and the same year their divorce was finalized. Ray’s photographs show both Walter and Margaret at the easel, although the story focuses on Walter as the painter behind their success. Margaret, wrote journalist Jane Howard, is “a fellow painter who is his business partner and who for a decade was his wife.”

Ray remembers Margaret being kind and helpful with the story, although she was at the time estranged from Walter. The photographs offer proof that if she was hiding her pain and frustration, she was hiding them well. In the article, she goes along with the charade, saying of Walter, “I admire his genius tremendously.” Another five years would pass before she told her story to a journalist and began the process of suing Walter for slander.

Walter, for his part, comes across as larger-than-life, bordering on megalomaniacal. “It takes dispassionate bravado to speak of oneself in the third person,” as Walter does, Howard writes. In the span of the six-page article, Keane compares himself to Rembrandt, El Greco, Michelangelo, Velázquez, Picasso, Gauguin, Renoir, Degas and Dalí. “ ‘Let’s face it,’ he says with uncommon self-assurance, ‘nobody could paint eyes like El Greco and nobody can paint eyes like Walter Keane.’”


Ray’s recollections match the tenor of Howard’s descriptions, as he recalls Walter as perhaps “the most outrageous person I ever met.” Once when Ray was on assignment in Belgrade, he received a surprise visit from his one-time subject. “Walter pounded on our door holding a bottle of Chivas Regal.”

“What made it even funnier,” says Ray, “was the many Hollywood stars who had paid the price of a new Buick for one these original oils. I think Walter thought it was funny too and that the whole ‘art’ world was a joke.” For all the self-aggrandizement that dribbled from his mouth, Ray believes, “he never took himself seriously and was amazed when others did.”

When he met the Keanes, Ray didn’t know that Margaret had, in fact, painted all of the Big Eyes paintings. But the whole empire struck him as something of a hoax from the beginning. “It may turn out that some of them were really painted by a machine.” And in a way, they were: The mass production of Margaret’s work on postcards and posters was as much as reason for their commercial windfall as it was for the serious art world to shun them.


_Liz Ronk, who edited this gallery, is the Photo Editor for LIFE.com. Follow her on Twitter at_ [_@LizabethRonk_](https://twitter.com/LizabethRonk)_._

![Margaret and Walter Keane, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltd6edde31a72bbbd9/69877c5ee53aba04b64d7459/150128-big-eyes-01.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Margaret and Walter Keane, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

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Caption from LIFE. Of all his paintings Walter's favorite is 'Alone,' which he won't sell and keeps in his dining room. "Let's face it," he says, "we are all really alone." Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Margaret Keane with her painting 'Alone.'](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt657778d5b0f8119b/69877c5e06f2c15af2333a7e/150128-big-eyes-03.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Margaret Keane with the painting 'Alone.' Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images


![Walter and Margaret Keane, poolside at home.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blte9c91331c774c793/69877c5fe53abafa7c4d7461/150128-big-eyes-04.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Walter and Margaret Keane, poolside at home. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Walter Keane with his 4 white poodles: Rembrandt, Degas, Mastisse and Gauguin.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt006e2fb46d578107/69877c5f3c1639ad61451725/150128-big-eyes-05.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Walter Keane with his four white poodles: Rembrandt, Degas, Matisse and Gauguin. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Margaret Keane with her 4 white poodles: Rembrandt, Degas, Mastisse and Gauguin.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blta7cd5d35a5f2bc49/69877c6035ba6f3487c06c46/150128-big-eyes-06.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Margaret Keane with her poodles. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images


![Walter and Margaret Keane at home, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt0c764c209191114b/69877c60cd1bba45346f4ea3/150128-big-eyes-07.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Walter and Margaret Keane at home, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Margaret Keane painting, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt25c1015baca535e7/69877c60a988ca4c506ac276/150128-big-eyes-08.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Margaret Keane painting, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Walter and Margaret Keane painting.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt5c233612232859b3/69877c615f570f205db14f6e/150128-big-eyes-09.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Caption from LIFE. In the studio at Walter's house in Woodside, he and Margaret work at adjoining easels surrounded by stacks of old and new 'Big Eye' paintings they have done. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images


![Margaret Keane painting, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/bltfcbb15be8a18597f/69877c61f887dc58f8e89ccc/150128-big-eyes-10.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Margaret Keane painting, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Walter Keane painting, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt9ad28d77bc03e9a7/69877c6106f2c1a069333a82/150128-big-eyes-11.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Walter Keane painting, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

![Walter and Margaret Keane, 1965.](https://static.time.com/v3/assets/bltea6093859af6183b/blt5d9a6b70d43530cc/69877c61cd68486b2f099628/150128-big-eyes-12.jpg?branch=production&width=1200&quality=75&auto=webp)

Walter and Margaret Keane, 1965. Bill Ray—The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

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