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# Clinton and Sanders Spar on Health Care at the Democratic Debate

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## Video: CNN Democratic Debate: Sanders Vows To Provide Universal Healthcare

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## Tessa Berenson


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## Tessa Berenson


Apr 15, 2016 2:58 AM UTC

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders say they both want universal health care. But they have different ideas about how to get there that cut to the core of their governing philosophies.

Vermont Sen. Sanders promises free health care for all, which some estimates say will add trillions of dollars to the national debt. “I disagree with that study,” Sanders said when confronted with numbers from the debate moderators Thursday night. He said that his “proposal, a Medicare-for-all single payer program, will save middle class families many thousands of dollars a year in their health care costs.”

Former Secretary of State Clinton said she agrees with Sanders lofty goals, but she advocates a more pragmatic approach. “I absolutely agree with the diagnosis,” she said. “The diagnosis that we’ve got to do much more to finish the work of getting universal health care coverage, something that I’ve worked on for 25 years… But I do think when you make proposals and you’re running for president, you should be held accountable for whether or not the numbers add up and whether or not the plans are actually going to work.”

Clinton said she wants to continue building on the Affordable Care Act, and that Sanders’ plan “would pose an incredible burden not just on the budget, but on individuals.”

“If someone promises you something for free, read the fine print,” Clinton quipped, saying it was a favorite mantra of her late father.

Sanders fired back: “Secretary Clinton will have to explain to the people of our country how it could be that every other major country on earth manages to guarantee health care to all of their people, spending significantly less per capita than we can,” he said. “I live 50 miles away from Canada, you know, it’s not some kind of communist authoritarian country. They’re doing OK.”


## Transcript

My proposal, a medicare for all, single payer program, will save, [ APPLAUSE ] will save middle class families, many thousands of dollars a year, in their health care costs. Public colleges, and universities tuition free, damn right. That is exactly where we should be going [ APPLAUSE ] [ APPLAUSE ] Most of the people who have analyzed what Senator Sanders put out, remember he had a plan for about, 18, 20 years, he'd change in the middle of his campaign, he's put out another plan, people have been analyzing the new plan, and there is no doubt by those who have analyzed it, progressive economists, health economists and the like That it would pose an incredible burden.

Not just on the budget, but on individuals. In fact, the Washington Post called it a trainwreck for the poor. A working woman on Medicaid who already has health insurance would be expected to pay about $ 2300. The same for free college. The free college offer, you know, my late father said, if somebody promises you something for free, read the fine print. Thank you Secretary. [ APPLAUSE ] Really? And here what it says. The fine print says this, that the federal government will cover two- thirds of the cost. All right, okay. And require the states, even those led by Republican governors. Senator, go ahead.

Thank you. To carry out what the remaining one third [ CROSSTALK ]. [ CROSSTALK ] what Secretary Clinton is saying. Secretary, please. We are not a country that has the courage to stand up to big money and do what has to be done for the working families in this country. [ APPLAUSE ] Secretary Clinton will have to explain [ APPLAUSE ] For the people of our country. How it could be that every other major country on Earth manages to guarantee healthcare to all of their people spending significantly less per capita than we can? I live 50 miles away from Canada. It's not some kind of communist authoritarian country.

They're doing okay.

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