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And the result of this paradoxical situation is that the Bible has effectively ceased to become a text. Certain words in a certain order. And it's become instead a symbol, a symbol of religious rights. Not the religious rite, although that also. But a symbol of power and authority that is undergirded by the relatively uninformed faith commitments of the majority of the American public. To speak in the name of the Bible is to claim a piece of that authority. Right, when you allude to the Bible, you harness some of its power. It's a power than can be abused. recently, Mike Huckabee tweeted this after the Supreme Court rulings on gay marriage. Now to the uninformed reader. It might look like Jesus is crying over gay marriage, which is of course not at all what it's about, but the point is it doesn't matter. Most often, as here, The Bible is used as a prop, it's a prop. I want to make a point, and I hold up The Bible. And it doesn't matter whether the page is blank or if the words are gibberish. That the effect is the same. This way the bible is a lot like the other great prop documents of American culture which is the constitution. Alright another text that is often invoked but that most Americans don't actually know that much about. One of the striking similarities between the bible and the constitution, is the originalist claim. Right? The notion that this text represents an authentic, older truth to which we should be striving to return. Now, biblical originalism and constitutional originalism are not the same thing. Well, I mean, the most fervent believers are advocating a return to the days of. Constant bloody animal sacrifice. The Bible is a book that treats women as property, that advocates polygamy, that supports slavery. It's not what most people mean by the truth of the Bible. Most people are talking about that deep fundamental authentic religious truth. That clarity and singularity of message and meaning that is repre, that the Bible represents. Now, of course, often how you define that authenticate truth is very much in line with what you think yourself as opposed to what the bible might actually say. so, for example, if you think. I'll get there in a second. The point is for the Bible to work as a prop, as a prop, it has to be single minded. Right? Nobody wants a wishy washy authority. Nobody wants to hold up the Bible and say, as it says right here ... but not over there. And I don't know what that word mean anyway. All right. For the Bible to work as a prop, it needs to, be treated, as it often is, as an undifferentiated, ambiguous block. Essentially a sledgehammer, and that's how it's used. So, for example, if you are opposed to gay marriage, you tell us that the Bible says... The Bible says homosexuality is wrong. You point to Leviticus 20. If your pro gay marriage you point to the Biblical text of David and Jonathan. Long standing gay icons. True story not the David story the icon story. The thing is our religious traditions have taught us. To read the Bible in this way. As if it has one message that we simply need to discern somehow. Alright, so over centuries we've been conditioned to think about the BIble as having one meaning. Again, one that often overlaps with what our tradition holds. And so we sort of lost the ability I think to read the Bible more carefully. Familiarity breeds inattention and so what I wanna do today is look at an utterly familiar text, gonna have some Saturday morning bible study. An utterly familiar text and I wanna pay more attention to it. I don't wanna mock it or undermine it, I'm not here to challenge anyone's faith and I don't care to promote any. I just want to think about what the Bible says and, just as importantly, how it says it. And then think about how the why, how, about why, the what and the how, matter. And whether we can, with closer attention to the actual words of the Bible, rescue it from [ UNKNOWN ]. So the text I want to look at is the first text. The very first. I'm talking about creation. Now I could have chosen almost any passage from the bible to demonstrate this, but there's so much wrapped up in creation. Now creation is the story of who we are. Why we're on this planet, who we are to God, our relationship with all other living things. Most people I think could give you the broad outlines of the Bible's creation story. I think most people would almost everybody would start successfully. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. As the King James has it. Almost everyone would start right. And then you would hear about six days of creation and God rested on the seventh and that's why we have the Sabbath. And then I think almost everybody would successfully move on to Adam and Eve and to the apple and the snake and the nakedness and the fig leaves and original sin, if that's your thing, and there you would have it, creation. And there's nothing actually technically wrong in that story. It's just not complete. Which is not surprising, most of us learn our biblical stories at Sunday school, and you know there leaving good stuff out. [ LAUGH ] So, I want to look more closely at what the Bible says, I want to begin with Genisus 1, in the beginning, and in the beginning. A watery chaos, formless and void and God famously says let there be light and there you have it, day one. The separation of darkness and light, the world is still a watery chaos but at least we can see it. Day two, God puts a bubble in the middle of, of the waters giving us the seas below and the heavens above. On day three, land emerges, and from that land grows all vegetation, plants, grasses, trees. On day four, the Sun and the Moon and the stars. Yes, Tom, there will be a quiz. [ LAUGH ] Day five, things start to get interesting. Animals start to be created, first fish and birds. And God speaks to them. And the first words God speaks to any living creature are not spoken to humans, but to fish and birds, though the words are familiar. Be fruitful and multiple. Fill the earth. You see, the animals are supposed to replicate and be successful species, even before we've been created. That seems important somehow. Day six, our favorite day, land animals. Domestic animals, wild animals, creepy crawlies and eventually, at the end, humans. God created humanity in his image. In the image of God he created them male and female he created them. I'm going to suggest that there's only one way. To read this. At least the simplest way. On the sixth day of creation God made man and woman simultaneously. Both in the divine image. That's what it says. And then he blesses them. Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and master it. He blesses both of them. In the Hebrew these commands are in the plural. And on the seventh day God rested which is why people sleep through church. [ LAUGH ] So far so good. A relatively clear six day creation from watery chaos to the arrival of humans. Straightforward simple and clean. Until we start reading Genesis 2 at which point we have to sort of. Take stock of where we are cuz things are more complicated suddenly. It starts innocuously enough. On the day the Lord God made heaven. I don't want to be picky. I do. I don't want to be picky, but which day is The Day? The Heavens were day 2. The Earth was day 3. I'm going to say day 3 just for the sake of simplicity. When no shrub of the field, was yet on the earth. Okay, well the, the plants were also supposed to be on day three. I'm gonna say we're in the middle of day three, between the land and the plants. Because the Lord God had not sent rain upon the earth. There was no mention of rain in Genesis one. The plants simply grew on the third day. Maybe ,. The land was damp from its watery, chaotic state, and there was no man to till the soil. Straightforward enough, man did not create it until day Six. Thank you. But why should anyone need to till the soil when the plants had already grown, by themselves, three days earlier? A flow would well up from the ground to water the earth. I want to be clear at this point. It really seems to me like we've stopped talking about a watery chaos from which land emerges, and a dry dusty earth. To which water is being added. All this concern about rain and, flow welling up from the ground. And the Lord, God formed man from the dust of the Earth, there's the dust again. Now I wanna make clear that everything in Genesis 2 that we've read so far has been a single sentence. And this is it's main clause. Remember how it began though. On the day that they Lord, God made Earth and Heaven. The Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth. One more time. Which day? [ CROSSTALK ] Heavens day two, earth day three, man day six, and there was a lady with him. Where did she go? So. God of course forms a, creates a garden plops the man down into it, and from the ground the lord god cause to grow every tree, hello trees were day three before man. [ LAUGH ] Adam seems to be lonely, so god famously formed out of the Earth all the wild beasts and all the birds of the sky. While beasts are day six. The birds are day five. And man is after both of them. And where's the lady? And why are animals created according to the story? Not to be fruitful and fill the earth but as man's plaything. Seems important somehow. Adam has no great rapport with any of the animals. And so, famously of course, God knocks him out, grabs a rib, and fashions it into a woman. [ LAUGH ] Here's the lady after man. Even after the animals. As I said, I think most people could tell you the broad outlines of this story. But I'm going to suggest that no one can tell you a single story that takes into account all of the details of the Bible. And the reason I hope is clear enough. We don't have a single story here. There are. Two stories here, two accounts of creation. And they've got differences, major contradictions. What makes it impossible to read these two creation stories as a single story is just the plain facts, the plot points. So what's the original state of the earth before creation? Is it watery or is it dusty? [ NOISE ] How long does creation take? Six days or one day? What's the order of creation? Trees, animal, humans? Or humans, trees, animals? In other words, is it, man created last or first? What is man's domain expected to be? Is he supposed to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth? Or is he supposed to hang out forever in a garden? And what about woman, is she created simultaneously with man in the image of God or secondarily to man in the image of rib. [ LAUGH ] These kinds of contradictions to me render the issue of literal historical truth, literal historical truth a category error. If one of these stories is true the other one by definition cannot be. But they're both in the bible. They're both in the bible. Now the thing is it's not just how creation happened that's at stake here, it's what creation means. That is, it's that deeper, fundamental truth that people seek in the bible. Because again, think of how much is wrapped up in here. The entire environmental movement is here. If you think that plants existed three days before we did then we are but a small part of a global ecosystem, environmentalist Genesis one is for you. If you're not so environmentally minded, you can always look at Genesis two where the plants are created entirely and solely for our sustenance. Animal rights is the same issues. Where the animals supposed to be successful species before we arrived on the planet or were they created to be our play things? Gender equality is obviously the big one. Was woman created simultaneously with man, equally blessed, equally in the divine image or was she created secondarily? An afterthought. literally a byproduct of man. These are big questions, now and always, with major ramifications, and the bible doesn't have one answer to them. It has two answers. Two contradictory viewpoints. For people in the fervently secularist camp. The presence in the text of these kinds of contradictions suggests that we should just chuck the whole thing in the trash. To me this is bad theological math. As if one plus one somehow should equal zero. Anyway best of luck to them. I think the authority of the Bible, as that poll showed, is fairly well entrenched at this point. The question is can we construct that authority in a new way. In a way that let's us stop using the Bible as a prop to advance individual agendas and actually take into account the state of the text that we, that we see before us. Because we have to remember. If there are two creation accounts in the Bible, two contradictory stories, that doesn't happen by chance. Someone made that happen. Whoever put these stories together, even if you think it was God, especially if you think it was God. Made a choice that we, as serious readers of the text, need to reckon with. Not gloss over, and not try to interpret a way, but actually coming to terms with. Whoever put these stories together, effectively privileged form over content. That is, he, I'm gonna say he. Just historical likelihood. He was willing to sacrifice easy meaning and singularity of perspective, for the presence and scripture of multiple perspectives. He was happier with an incomprehensible plot, and impossible story, than to have to give up one of these two view points. If we as a culture are going to invest the Bible with authority and privilege it as a source of truth, then we really can't pretend the Bible is anything other than what it is. And it's anything other than a single clear statement of belief or truth. Right? There, it's a jumble of beliefs. It's a mixture of opinions. It's a combination of voices. And that multi- vocality is embedded in the text right from the word go. In the first two chapters of Genesis, it's almost like a statement of intent. Here is what this book. When we read the Bible this way I think the notion of the truth in the biblical sense has to sort of be thrown out. There are many truths here. They're all equally biblical, equally scriptural, authoritative, valid, valued by our traditions. The Bible doesn't preserve some original claim that is-- that's there for us to retrieve. There are many original claims here. We live today in a world of religious cacophony, lots of different voices. And it turns out that's the Bible too. We value those societies that welcome people with different religious ideas. We actually don't care very much what those ideas are, or at least we shouldn't. It's the principle of inclusion that matters to us. It turns out. That's the Bible too. It encodes the kind of religious pluralism that has existed in all places and at all times including when the Bible itself was written. That's what it preserves for us, religious pluralism. There's a Rabbinic story from the [ UNKNOWN ]. In which two rabbis are arguing strenuously over the interpretation of a single verse. And a voice from eventually comes down and says, enough you're both right. The bible is the ultimate source of authority and it's also completely indecisive. So what do we do it with it then? What use is it? This text that our culture for better or worse holds most sacred. This text is a living reminder that human interaction even in the fraught realm of religion. Is founded on dialogue and not monologue. Here I feel like I'm actually, amazingly picking up on Chris Matthews. Founded on dialogue and not monologue. It's founded on, the inclusion of differences and not their exclusion. It's the agreement to disagree. Even about the most fundamental issues of human existence. For people who really give it lot of weight, to the biblical text, really care about it who are invested in its authority, the presence in the bible of different opinions. Shouldn't be a cause for concern. I think quite the contrary. I think the presence in the Bible of these different voices may make it challenging, certainly more challenging than if it were simple, clear statements, makes it challenging but it also makes it worth a damn. It changes it from a prop. Into something I think far more interesting. It forces us to stop simply using it and to start reading it again. And I feel like if we did more of that we might find it pretty useful after all. Thank you. 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