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## Video: Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy Discuss 'The Presidents Club'

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_Published 2012-04-06. Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy discuss the surprising ways that current and former presidents depend on each other_


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## Transcript

[ MUSIC ] Former presidents could be very useful. They could actually be tool of presidential power. It's not in the constitution. It's not in any textbook. It's not in any political journal. But it's a very real thing. The idea of the President's club, these men who have held this office. Played this role. Felt its pressures. Know its needs. Reaching out to each other and saying only you can help me with this problem. The Presence Club really begin in 1945, right after Harry Truman found himself suddenly in office. And facing a devastated post- World War and knew that the only person who really knew how he could help was Herbert Hoover of all people, a, a long time political adversary, but someone who knew a lot about feeding starving people.

There is, on some matters, no one they can talk to who will understand what they face, other than a former President. Which is how on the morning that President Kennedy was preparing to announce the quarantine of Cuba. Which stood a very real chance of triggering a nuclear exchange. The person he wanted to talk to was Eisenhower, who was the only other person on the planet who knew what it was like to have that responsibility. 40 years later, when the younger George Bush ordered troops into Iraq, he got out of the Oval Office, walked around the back of the, the White House and then came back inside and wrote his father.

A note which sounded a lot like Kennedy's appeal to Eisenhower four decades earlier and he wrote in that note now I know what you went through. One of the clubs most amazing moments actually took place at 35, 000 feet in 1981 Ronald Reagan sent Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon to the funeral of [ INAUDIBLE ] who had been assassinated a few days before him the three men didn't like each other. And the trip over was frosty, but on the way back, Carter and Ford formed an alliance that would last 25 years, based in part around the fact that they both disliked Ronald Reagan. The club has its darker side.

In the 1968 presidential election, when Johnson is leaving office, and wants nothing more than to be remembered as a peacemaker, he discovered, towards the end of that campaign That Richard Nixon was actually undermining the Paris peace talks that Johnson was hoping would bring the Vietnam War to an end. And he faced the choice of whether he essentially accused his [ INAUDIBLE ] successor of committing what he was calling in private, treason. Probably the lowest moment in the club's history was when Jimmy Carter wrote a secret letter to members of the U. N. security Counsel in 1991 opposing the invasion of Kuwait planned by George Herbert Walker Bush.

That upset the White House and they privately and secretly told him to stop his lobbying campaign against the sitting president. [ MUSIC ]

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