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## Video: 'I Never Said There Was No Collusion.' Rudy Giuliani Changes His Tune on Trump Campaign Denials

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_Published 2019-01-17. Rudy Giuliani on Wednesday suggested that members of President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign may have colluded with Russia_


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## Transcript

I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. I have no idea if, I have not. I said the president of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the president of the United States committed the only crime you could commit here, conspired with the Russians to hack the DNC. It's about what you knew, [ CROSSTALK ] what was right and what was wrong and what did you deceive about. [ CROSSTALK ] considerations. The President did not [ CROSSTALK ]. He said nobody had any contact. Tons of people had contact. Nobody colluded. The guy running his campaign.

He didn't say [ CROSSTALK ]. Issue at the same time as the convention. He said he didn't. He didn't say, nobody. How would you know that nobody in your campaign [ CROSSTALK ]. He actually did say that, Rudy. He said nobody. Then he said as far as I know. Well, as far as he knows, that's true.

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