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## Video: 10 Questions for Henry Kissinger in 2011

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_Published 2011-05-27. In 2011 former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger discussed China, the Arab Spring and the Vietnam War._


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## Transcript

Doctor Henry Kissinger, was the U. S. 56th secretary of state under president Nixon and Ford. He's now chairman of Kissinger Associates an international consulting firm. And he's written a new book, on China. Today he's answering ten questions from Time Magazine. Doctor Kissinger welcome. Thank you. Should America be afraid of China? America should. Understand China and think about China. But it need not be afraid of China. Can you briefly explain the idea you have of this, of a Pacific community? China and the United States are now in part afraid of [ INAUDIBLE ] in each other. So therefore I think we should find common ground.

On which we can work together, to create a sense of cooperation and community. Now, a lot of people might believe that the Americans will not likely be in, the aggressors in this situation, it will be the Chinese. How would you respond to that? I want to emphasize this. If our fundamental interests are challenged, we will defend our faith and we will resist. But I ask myself, when I look at World War I, if the statesman that decided to go to World War I had known what the world would look like two years after that war. Would they not have made another effort to find a more peaceful solution. We are in that position with China.

We can let things drift in an competitive relationship all over the world where we can on both sides. Make an effort to see whether a parallel evolution is possible. Now, on other matters do you feel optimist about the developments in the so called Arab spring. It's a tremendous historical event. That the people in these countries are asserting a claim to participation in government. But the history of revolution shows that the first outburst of the revolution is a coming together of various resentments. They don't necessarily agree with each other. After the first outburst, the challenges, how to [ UNKNOWN ] radiant resentment and establish a common direction.

That is why almost invariably in the history of revolution, the first group of revolutionaries get overtaken by some other groups. So, the challenge we have now is to see how we can contribute to a democratic revolution that is in the first scene of the first act of a five act play. It's been said that the US is not a member of the International Criminal Court, because former secretaries of state, such as yourself, and others, might face prosecution under its auspices. Do you believe this is true? The reason we are not a member of the International Court has a better justification than the fear that secretaries of state would be put before the Criminal Court.

The reason is that this is, that this is left to prosecute us and, drawn from a variety of countries to very often cannot understand what the issues are. And that it has started a process where some American officials are, are reluctant to travel abroad for fear that somebody will launch some sort indictment against them. And if that becomes a method by which a kind of diplomacy is conducted, so I do not favour the International Criminal Court. I wrote an article about it many years ago. And not just because of your fear of your. But not for fear of myself. Self. Right, okay. Umm, now. Not even remotely for fear of myself.

I guess a lot of people will be surprised how dovish you are towards China, which is still a communist nation, when the communist Chinese was this sort of propulsive threat, of the Vietnam war. So people might think that you have sort of changed positions on this. I think peace has two elements. You can't have peace without equilibrium. But you can't have an equilibrium unless people think it is just. So you have to work on both problems simultaneously. So, what you're saying is you advise not pulling out of Vietnam earlier. Was that there was not equal, there was not a perception of. [ CROSSTALK ] We came into office when there were 550, 000 Americans already in place.

You that turn, can't turn that off like a. Television champ. Our single objective was that the people of South Vietnam should have their opportunity to choose their own fate. If that was acheived, we would leave. Until it was achieved, we withdrew gradually. When the North Vietnamese agreed. To a sort of democratic process in themselves. Then we settle. That's the essence of it all. Not the question of not wanting to withdraw. And some day an accurate history of the Vietnam war will be written. For the sake of, of American unity. It sounds like it frustrates you, the misunderstanding. No, by now I'm used to that.

Water under the bridge by now. Dr. Kissinger thank you so much. [ UNKNOWN ]

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