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# In Florida, Fallout from a Gay-Marriage Ban

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## Video: In Florida, Fallout from a Gay-Marriage Ban

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_Published 2008-11-18. Parishoners at a Tampa church voted overwhelmingly for Barack Obama and a ban on gay marriage that critics say may have unintended consequences_


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## Transcript

>> In the name of Jesus. In the name of Jesus [ unk ] victory.

>> A [ unk ] Baptist Church in Tampa, the first weekend after Election Day. The congregation sing hymns of praise and victory..

>> Deliver a [ unk ] this morning from our [ unk ] and the [ unk ] as far as we knew have an [ unk ]. Are we?

>> Yeah.

>> Amen. Amen.

>> Pastor James Favorite is celebrating Barack Obama's win.

>> It was like a [ unk ] have been prayed the dreams [ unk ]. I think the African- American community voted about 97 percent for Obama.

>> Are you here to vote sir?

>> Black voters in Florida turned out in high numbers for Obama and a majority of them also voted for something else, amendment to a ballot measure similar to other measures passed in Arizona and California to ban gay marriage in the State's constitution. Pastor Favorite was one of the amendments main supporters.

>> The present law says, marriage between one man and one woman and that's what we wanted to be. We wanted to be one man and one woman and say let's do this and let's make it a constitutional amendment.

>> But it's not so simple for everyone.

>> My understanding of amendment to it enshrines in the constitution from the State of Florida, exclusionary language. It diminishes me as a human being.

>> Bag Evan Jones, a local playwright has been with his partner Jim for 11 years.

>> In the constitution of the United States, there's something about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and that third piece is a bridge for that language of amendment 2.

>> People like Jones find it ironic that much like in California, where a majority of blacks voted for civil rights by electing a black president but against the civil rights of another minority Gays and Lesbians.

>> We talk about marriage as being an institution that come from the church and now we have this movement that's outside of the church that want to have church rights.

>> That's fine as long as the [ unk ] courts, you know, the city clerk issues marriage licenses, it is a civil contract and they have to be treated equally.

>> This is gay activist Nadine Smith. She's talking to other gay rights leaders on a conference call.

>> And there's conversations about will we go after our ballot measure to repeal amendment 2. Some folks in the West Coast have rekindle the idea of a real national [ unk ].

>> They're talking about legal challenges and protest against the amendment. They're saying, the ballot language was too vague lawyer George Rotter agrees. -[ unk ] language. In as much as marriage as the legal union of only one man and only one woman as husband and wife, no other legal union that is treated as marriage or the substantial equivalent thereof shall be valid or recognized. So, it's, you know, it doesn't really come out and say what it was trying to say and so, fairly ambiguous correction of dependent clauses.

>> Not recognizing other Unions equivalent to marriage. Rotter says, that's the tricky part.

>> There is to travel some case where very similar amendment in the state of Michigan was used to extensively take away the rights of domestic partners and certain economic benefits based on this similar law.

>> In Michigan, public employers were prohibited from providing healthcare benefits to the partners of unwed teachers, firefighters, police officers and nurses. A ruling like this not only applies to gays but could affect some of Florida's more than 320, 000 heterosexual domestic partners including some church goers, unwed straight couples or seniors who share health insurance and pension plan benefits.

>> Oh, Lord that we [ unk ]. We look over Barack Obama.

>> I don't think they have those rights, gay rights. I think that being gay is a poison. If you choose to be gay, you know, that's something that you do. I think it's just an attempt to legitimize something that's wrong and to equate it with civil rights, I think it's a [ unk ].

>> There is no difference for civil rights for African- American people and civil rights from gay African- American people. We're talking about people. It's human rights and if you're about justice, you want-- I can't because justice for me and the people I know. It has to be for everybody.

>> I'm Natasha Del Torro for TIME. com Tampa, Florida.

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