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## Video: Canada ‘Not For Sale,’ Carney tells Trump, Who Responds With ‘Never Say Never’

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_Published 2025-05-06. Sitting next to President Donald Trump, Canada’s new Prime Minister Mark Carney got the clip he wanted Canadians to see: him telling Trump that Canada is “not for sale.” But over the course of the 33-minute exchange in front of reporters in the freshly gilded Oval Office, Carney had to wait patiently as Trump repeatedly made lengthy pitches for why Canada should be the US’s 51st state._


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## Transcript

You have said that Canada should become the 51st state? No, no. Well, I still believe that, but. But, you know, it takes two to tango, right? But no, I do. I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens. You get free military, you get tremendous medical care and other things. There would be a lot of advantages, but it would be it would be a massive tax cut. And it's also a beautiful you know, as a real estate developer, you know, I'm a real estate developer at heart. When you get rid of that artificially drawn line, somebody drew that line many years ago with like a ruler, just a straight line right across the top of the country.

When you look at that beautiful formation, when it's together, I'm a very artistic person. But when I looked at that beauty, I said, that's the way it was meant to be. But, you know, it's I just I do feel it's much better for Canada. But we're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it. I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens. Tremendously lower taxes, free military, which honestly, we give you essentially anyway because we're protecting Canada. If you ever had a problem. But I think, you know, it's, uh, it would really be a wonderful marriage because it's it's two places they get along very well.

They like each other a lot. Well, if I may, um, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale. That's true. We're sitting in one right now. You know Buckingham Palace that you visited as well. That's true. And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last several months, it's not for sale. Won't be for sale, ever. But the opportunity is in the partnership and the. And what we can build together. And we have done that in the past. And part of that is the president just said is with respect to our own security. They have, I must say, Canada is stepping up the military participation because Mark knew, you know, they were low and now they're stepping it up.

And that's a very important thing. But never say never. Never say never. Make it more difficult when you consider what Mr. Carney just said, that Canada is not for sale. Does this make the discussion a little more difficult to start on? No, not at all. No, not at all. No time. Time will tell. It's only time. But I say never say never. I've had many, many things that were not doable. And they ended up being doable and only doable in a very friendly way. But if it if it's to everybody's benefit, you know, Canada loves us and we love Canada. That's I think the number one thing that's important. But we'll see.

I mean over time we'll see what happens.

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