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## Video: The New Frugality: The Organic Gardener

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_Published 2009-04-16. With sales up 500%, John Dromgoole's "The Natural Gardener" organic nursery is having a very good year_


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>> My name is John Dromgoole, and what I do is I run an organic gardening center that's based around teaching but we do supply organic gardening products to the community. I've been in business in the retail end of it for over twenty years getting there twenty five years now. What I've seen is Generation X has begun to come along, a dramatic jump in the sales. At what point here in the spring, it was near 500 percent increase in vegetable sales, and herbs and seeds than previous years, so that's a great big jump. In Y2K there was a lot of hoarding of seeds, people were concerned, but it wasn't the movement towards organics like it is today.

>> I can take the next person in line.

>> There's always been the classic homegrown gardener and they've been growing vegetables to can up and to produce in a way that they could put away for the year. But this new way for people, the ones that are really concerned about the quality of their food, they're going to the organic gardening centers to buy produce. The challenge of gardening is one that is imposed on yourself, if you think you can't do it then you struggle a little bit that first year. But those little successes that occur out there build confidence. We teach out here, we have lessons we try to eliminate the problems that they might run into, or if they run into a problem, how to treat it organically.

So there's a new language going on, the old way of using chemicals and the new language of the organic gardener. I'm not sure what happened on a national level, but it did. Everybody got it at the same time, that communicating with each other. They saw the importance of staying home, of gardening it's like another room of the house, when you get outside and garden. So I think it's based on food quality concerns about sprays, diseases that are out there. All of these things have increased the interest in home gardening. Many people are resorting to growing food out in the front yard and it can be nice in a very sculptural way so that it's pleasing to the neighborhood, or it can be multiple boxes like this yielding a lot of produce and it looks good also.

So this is what we're seeing square foot gardening, it's very, very popular. So this is the same garden raised up off of the ground. It's got a plate underneath it made of wood of-- every one of them has a good drainage hole down there. The flowers are in here, really just for beauty, but they also help bring the bees to the garden. Here's some basil coming in so we see some herbs in this one beginning to go. And then we have some other things like eggplant and peppers, you can see in some of these other beds that they're just jammed full of lettuce, and chard and onions. There's an assortment of things growing in here.

This is the end of the winter garden for us but once again you can see that by using the grid we get a lot more vegetable in there. We increase the production over the nice big 'ol long beds that we used to do. So things are changing. You can grow all of the herbs you need and we'd like to teach people by seeing it here you're able to go home and duplicate that and give everything the proper spacing so it's the most productive.

>> It does seem that there are more of what I guess they call the Generation Xers. I'm not really up on that but 20- 30 year olds I would say that's the biggest increase that I've seen, young married couples or young couples a lot more than I've seen before in the past. And again, where's every other spring the enthusiasm has been about flowers, one in the spring flowers, this year hands down it's about vegetables. It's about growing their own food.

>> This is-- this is our first year actually we're starting one but I actually grew up on a farm but we moved to Austin here from Wisconsin and so we're going to give it a shot and kind of experimenting I guess it's a little different here in Texas than it is up north but we're learning. So, me and the kids will try growing some vegetables. We got a big backyard and we're gonna put some fresh dirt down, see if we can do it. Just basically a head of the fresh vegetables, and each of the kids a little bit of ball or two, I guess.

>> Oh there's a tremendous increase in business. The fruit trees this winter sold out in half the time they normally sell out in. And our vegetable sales have just been through the roof, astronomical and consistently week after week we're selling double, triple, quadruple, you know, based on last year, you know, comparison. I think people just wanna get their hands in the dirt. I think they're sticking close to home because of the economy. They're not taking the exorbitant vacations so they want to make their, you know, they wanna build their nest. Make it more comfortable to be in and enjoy. So it's a little bit going back to nature right now it's really wonderful.

>> I see some right there.

>> You see some right there?

>> Yeah.

>> Those are Sungold. Well we've had a garden for the last six years and since we've been in Austin for three years. It's the only way to get my kids to eat vegetables.

>> Yeah.

>> At 4: 00 in the afternoon for snack time I send them out and they can pick their tomato, cherry tomatoes or whatever they want with the strawberries right now which they love. And I also have them in the winter time they'll go out and they'll pick salad before dinner and it's a great way to get them to really enjoy eating their vegetables.

>> You never forget when you're a young person the gardening techniques that were taught to you by your grandfather, your parents or at school, you know, there is a movement towards settling back down. We were getting too far out there spending too much money living in an unreal world and now reality is setting back in. There's a little investment in time and getting going but you begin to get excited. Finally you get home and you can hardly wait to get into your garden out there. So I think this is gonna stay. These folks are now realizing that the shipping of produce from around the world isn't a very sustainable way to garden.

So they're looking at the local markets, the family farm is coming back, and I think that they'll hang in there with these vegetable gardens that they are growing at home, because once you've tasted a home grown vegetable you're not going back. We're going towards the future with this lifestyle.

>> It's no surprise people are growing more of their own food. In a TIME poll, 30 percent of those who responded said they failed to pay a bill on time since the economic downturn began. More than a quarter of those polled said they've taken money out of their retirement funds to pay expenses. People are doing their own home repairs, putting off vacations and car purchases, and 18 percent said they're doing more of their own lawn care, cutting their own grass to cut expenses. For more poll results, go to time. com / spending.

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