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President Donald Trump and South African President Cyril Ramaphosa engaged in a tense back-and-forth at the White House on Wednesday over Trump's false claims of "genocide" against white South African farmers._ --- May 21, 2025 8:20 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [Trump Says He’s Allowing White South Africans to Come to U.S. to Avoid ‘Genocide’](/video/Dns3KBYT/) ### Trump Says He’s Allowing White South Africans to Come to U.S. to Avoid ‘Genocide’ [TIME Interviews Cyril Ramaphosa, President of South Africa](/video/s3L1SUZT/) ### TIME Interviews Cyril Ramaphosa, President of South Africa [Cyril Ramaphosa Set to be South Africa's New President](/video/BCoKZhDo/) ### Cyril Ramaphosa Set to be South Africa's New President --- ## Transcript What would it take from you for you to be convinced that there's no white genocide in South Africa? Well, I can answer that for president. It for him. I would rather have him answer that. It will be. President will respond to. You. Thank you, Mr. President. It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africans, some of whom are his good friends, like those who are here when we have talks between us on the quiet table. It will take President Trump to listen to them. I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying. I would say if there was Afrikaner Farmer genocide, I can bet you these three gentlemen would not be here, including my Minister of Agriculture. He would not be with me. So it will take him, president Trump, listening to their stories, to their perspective. That is the answer to your question. But, Mr. President, I must say that we have. No, no, wait. Uh, we have thousands of stories talking about it, and we have documentaries. We have news stories on that. Is Natalie here? Somebody's here to turn that. I could show you a couple of things, and I would, I just I have to it has to be responded to. Yeah, sure. We have. Let me see the articles, please, if you would. And excuse me. Turn the lights down. Turn the lights down and just put this on. It's right behind you. And those cars aren't driving. They're stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've never seen anything like it. Both sides of the road, you have crosses. Where? Those people were all killed. Have they told you where that is, Mr. President? No. I'd like to know where that is. Because this I've never seen. We have a multi-party democracy in South Africa that allows people to express themselves, political parties to adhere to various policies. And in many cases, or in some cases, those policies do not go along with government policy. Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying even in the parliament. And there are a small minority party which is allowed to exist in terms of our constitution. But you do allow them to take land? No, no, no, no. You do allow them to take land. Nobody can. Then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer. And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. No there is nothing happens. There is criminality in our country. People who do get killed, unfortunately through criminal activity are not only white people. Majority of them are black people. And we have now utilized. The farmers are not black. I don't know if that's good or bad, but the farmers are not black. I'm sorry. I don't have a plane to give you. I wish you did. I tell. You. I would take it if your country offered the United States Air Force a plant, I would take it. Okay. But coming back to to this issue, which I really would like us to talk about and talk about it very calmly. We were taught by Nelson Mandela that whenever there are problems, people need to sit down around a table and talk about them. Well, there are, and this is precisely what we would also like to talk about, including, of course, trade matters, investment matters. But we have thousands of people that want to come into our country, and they're white farmers, and they feel that they're going to die in South Africa. And it's a bad thing. Yeah. ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"Trump Pushes False ‘White Genocide’ Claims in Tense Meeting With South African Leaders","description":"President Donald Trump and South African President Cyril Ramaphosa engaged in a tense back-and-forth at the White House on Wednesday over Trump's false claims of \"genocide\" against white South African farmers. 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