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## Video: Apollo Astronaut Jim Lovell

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_Published 2009-07-16. Astronaut Jim Lovell famously said "Houston, we have a problem." He talks with TIME's Jeffrey Kluger, who co-authored his book about Apollo 13_


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## Transcript

>> Houston, we have a problem. We've had a main B bus undervolt.

>> Jim Lovell was a commander of Apollo 13 and the man with whom I had the immense privilege of collaborating on our book of the same name. The book later served as the inspiration for the movie. Jim, in addition, flew aboard Apollo 8, which was the first lunar orbit mission.

>> The moon is essentially grey, no color.

>> And flew aboard Gemini 7 and commanded Gemini 12. Now when you were coming home from Apollo 13, or actually when you were still heading out and the explosion occurred. Did that figure in not so necessarily your conscious thought but did that awareness and the fact that this is the emergency that I've been trained to handle and not coming home is part of the bargain. Did that help, keep you focus on fixing things?

>> When the explosion first occurred and I think this really happens to most people that get themselves in a serious situation. You say, why me? Why now? Why not happen-- why it didn't happen on Apollo 12 or wait for Apollo 14?

>> At the moment, the astronauts are continuing to try and isolate their trouble. A late report says the spacecraft now is operating on battery power alone. All unnecessary equipment is being turned off.

>> We didn't know really how serious it wasn't at the game. We didn't know until I looked out in the window and saw the [ unk ] escaping. And so, it was a case of a slow realization to the fact that, " Hey, we are in deep trouble ." And what do we have to work with and the thought to all three of us almost on the same time, says what do we got attached to us. We got that little module, it was never designed to come back home. Well, we better use up because there's nothing here that we can use.

>> Apart from the moment with the explosion on Apollo 13, you're in space four times, Gemini 7, Gemini 12, Apollo 8 and Apollo 13. What was the lowest moment or the moment you least enjoyed?

>> Aside from the crisis--

>> Aside from the crisis of 13-- if we can take out those two- and- a- half days.

>> I thought that 40 days in Gemini 7, you know, it's a very, very small vehicle. Was, you know, about the maximum four people to prove anything. During the testing of that vehicle, I sat one time in, you know, for 10 hours. And I thought to myself that this is no way that I'm gonna spend two weeks in this vehicle. I can't stand 10 hours. I couldn't wait to get out of it. I was sore all over but the difference was, of course, zero gravity. We floated inside that little vehicle and constantly, there weren't any pressure points on the body. But still, you know, moving around and two weeks with the food and then you breathe and food causes, you know, and everything was trying.

I think if you ask Frank Borman, you know, Frank and I talked about this all the time. He said Apollo 8 was nothing compare to that Gemini's--

>> That's right. You and Frank flew twice. Okay, and going to the other end of the experience back from-- aside from say, splash gentlemen on Apollo 13, which I'm sure was a transcending moment of relief. What was your best if there was a single best moment on your four flights?

>> The single most memorable is Borman and I into lunar orbit on Christmas Eve. I think that it was really the epitome of my four base flights. To see the far side which we don't see from the earth. I did see the earth for the first time, which I've well- captured on that famous floated ref and to be part of a real pioneer aspect of space activity. Going to a planet for the first time other than orbiting the earth and then coming back successfully in a very high speed return, that was really the high point of my flights.

>> At the time of an anniversary. There have only been 24 of you guys who went to the moon. If you were in a room together and there is a room for the people. Do you feel something particular with one of the other few men who can recall that experience?

>> Yeah. These people are bond to much more because we showed a common experience and I look at the other people who had made the flights and I remarked with what they had done and sometimes wish I could have also done some of the things they have done like landing on the moon but that's history. We just recently had a 40th anniversary of Apollo 8 to Bourbon and Andrews and myself plus our wives out in San Diego, remembering the old times. So hopefully we'll have 50th.

>> I'm sure you will and as I said before we started talking when the history of space writers written I think Apollos 8, 11 and 13 will be remembered as the true giants of the giants and you're the only man who flew on more than one of them. So next year incredibly.

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