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# How Trump and Biden Talked About Trump’s Conviction During the First Presidential Debate

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_Published 2024-06-28. About 45 minutes into the CNN Presidential Debate, President Joe Biden referenced former President Donald Trump’s recent felony conviction regarding in New York, during a discussion about the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection. Trump then sought to pivot from his own legal troubles by referring to Biden’s son, Hunter, as a “convicted felon," referring to the younger Biden's felony conviction this month on three firearms charges._


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## Transcript

The only person on this stage is a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now. And the fact of the matter is, he is what he's telling you is simply not true. The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on Capitol Hill, and all those people, every one of those who was convicted, deserves to be convicted. The idea that they didn't kill somebody just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desk, turned him over statues. The idea that those people are patriots. Come on. But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon, at a very high level, his son is convicted.

Gonna be convicted probably numerous other times, should have been convicted before, but his justice department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things. But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office. Joe could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done. He's done horrible things. All of the death caused at the border, telling the Ukrainian people that we're gonna want $1 billion. A go change the prosecutor. Otherwise, you're not getting $1 billion. If I ever said that, that's quid pro quo. But we're not gonna do anything. We're not gonna give you $1,000,000,000 unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the son.

This man is a criminal. This man, you're lucky. You're lucky. I did nothing wrong. We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. I did nothing wrong. Idea that I did anything wrong, relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. It's simply a lie, number one. Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American, just because your president is wrong, is simply wrong. No president's ever spoken like that before. No president in our history has spoken like that before. Number three, the crimes that you are still charged with. And think of all the civil penalties you have.

How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things of having sex with a porn star on the night while your wife was pregnant. I mean, what are you talking about? You have the morals of an alley cat. Give your minute, sir. I didn't have sex with the Porntr. Number one. Number two, that was a case that was started and moved. They moved a high ranking official, a DOJ into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case. That case is going to be appealed and one. We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat. The prosecutor were all high ranking Democrats, appointed people.

And both the civil and the criminal. He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me. But when the public found out about these cases, 'cause they understand it better than he does, he has no idea what these cases are. But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did, my poll numbers went up way up. You know that 'cause you're reporting it.

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