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## Video: Megachurch Pastor's First Sermon Since Son's Suicide

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_Published 2013-07-29. Pastor Rick Warren returns to his congregation three months after his son committed suicide to talk about mental illness._


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## Transcript

In the past 16 weeks, since mental illness took my son Matthew's life. An impassioned Rick Warren delivered his first sermon since his son, Matthew, killed himself at age 27 in April. With his wife Kay at his side, Warren told his Saddleback Church congregation, Matthew suffered from mental illness since childhood. We had gone to the best doctors money could buy. We had gotten the best medications. We had the best therapy. We had the best people praying, thousands of people praying. We have an incredibly strong family, with deep, deep faith. It just did not make sense. The grieving couple's influence reaches far beyond the walls of this church.

Warren is the author of the mega best seller, The Purpose Driven Life. With Kay at the forefront, Saddleback Church launched a global initiative to provide help for people who are HIV positive, and remove any associated stigmas. After their son's suicide, the Warren's new pledge is to erase any shame associated with mental illness. It's amazing to me that any other organ in your body can break down and there's no shame and stigma to it. But if your brain breaks down, you're supposed to keep it a secret. Huh? There's no stigma, you, you get diabetes, no problem. You get heart disease, no problem.

Your lungs don't work, no problem. You break a bone, break a back, if your liver stops working, no stigma. But if your brain doesn't work right, why should you be ashamed of that? Warren credits relatives, especially Matthew's surviving older siblings, Josh and Amy, with leading the family through it's darkest moments. I am in a family of spiritual redwoods. I mean, they are giants of faith. It is a rock solid family. And actually, when Matthew died Amy said, you know, Daddy, she said, Satan picked the wrong family to pick on. He's gonna lose big time on this one. [ LAUGH ] Saddleback Church officials say Rick Warren will not grant any interviews soon, but they say we will hear a lot from the pastor, especially as he begins his mission to remove the stigma of mental illness.

Paul Vercambon, CNN, Orange County, California.

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