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_Published 2024-01-12. South Africa presented arguments before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on Thursday, Jan. 11, after it filed a case against Israel in late December for its “genocidal acts” against Palestinians in Gaza._


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## Transcript

The attempt to weaponize the term genocide against Israel in the present context does mold and tell the court a grossly distorted story. I think that's more than empty the wood of its unique force and special meaning. It's something that's the object and purpose of the convention itself. With ramifications for all states seeking to defend themselves against those who demonstrate total disdain for life. And for the law if there is a concern about the obligations of States under the genocide convention, then it is in relation to their responsibilities to act against Hamas has proudly declared agenda of annihilation, which is not a secret and is not in doubt.

The annihilation if language of Kumasi Charter is repeated regularly by its latest with the goal in the words of one member of commerce's political Bureau of the cleansing of Palestine of the filth of the Jews even that on October 7th before any military response by Israel South Africa issued an official statement blaming Israel for quote the recent conflagration essentially blaming Israel for the murder of its own citizens one wonders, whether the applicant agrees. The court is told of every twenty-three thousand casualties as the applicant repeats as many have unverified statistics provided by Hamas itself.

Hardly a reliable source. Every civilian casualty in this conflict is a human tragedy that demands our compassion. But the court is not told how many thousands of casualties are in fact militants. How many were killed by car misfire? how many with civilians taking direct part in hostilities and just how many are the result of legitimate and proportionate use of force against military targets even if It is plainly inconceivable under the terms set by this very courts. That is State conducting yourself in this way in these circumstances. May be said to be engaged in genocide not even prime fac. The key component of genocide the intention to destroy a people in whole or in part is totally lacking.

What is Route 6 by operating in Gaza is not to destroy a people? But to protect the people it's people who are under attack on multiple fronts and to do so in accordance with the law even as it faces a heartless enemy determined to use that very commitment against it is that I appear before the icj. Some of the points made the astonishing and I'm not bad by threats and the situation on the ground. Is what I suggest that it is primary for their protection and because of that is not capable of violating its own provision. the state of Israel today is Sprint to disprove South Africa's countries that was presented before the court yesterday.

We stand by the law and then all the evidence submitted yesterday and we believe and stained very confident that those fans the alarm still are in violation of the genocide convention. No matter what some individual within the group of Palestine in the Gaza may have done it no matter how great a threat to Israel citizen might be on the plaza in the role of these populations with the intent of destroying them cannot be justified at all remain confident that we have presented a compelling case for Insignia detailed by the state of Israel has the smiley face today except to say that certain ways with each week.

And Satan's actions can be can be minimized by the fact that they've allowed humanitarian is we all know there was no there was no such they know anyone the UN says they can provide humanitarian Aid because of the ongoing abundance. So we remain confident that the court has a compelling effects from South Africa and the law is on our side Revenge from South Africa against Israel. We are standing on the principle that there any Apartments. Anywhere in the world has been declared as a crime against humanity. So it will never be allowed to happen anywhere and that is the UN convention. So we are you at 2 to pretend to get rid of the people of Palestine and Gaza.

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