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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: Clinton on the Environment [Watch (HLS stream): Clinton on the Environment](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/bwgTEatC.m3u8) (9:52)  _Published 2007-07-12. Clinton discusses America's addiction to fossil fuels, climate change, clean energy and the information technology boom (9:52)_ --- Jul 25, 2023 4:23 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [WikiLeaks Reveals More Inside Information from Clinton Foundation](/video/SslYKpTv/) ### WikiLeaks Reveals More Inside Information from Clinton Foundation [Hillary Clinton - "I Did Not Send Classified Information"](/video/pI7aUgVN/) ### Hillary Clinton - "I Did Not Send Classified Information" [Clinton on Campaigns](/video/V7COECqW/) ### Clinton on Campaigns --- ## Transcript >> This notion of doing well by doing good is something that could go some ways to solving a lot of these problems. Is that true? >> Yeah, I don't think that our addiction of fossil fuel is the main source of the difficulties in the Middle East. But I do believe that if you're time out, what's the most dangerous place in the world looking ahead 50 years, the most dangerous place in the world is any place that's either putting too much green house gas and too many green house gas into the atmosphere are destroying too many natural resources with that, which the world can't live. Let me say to that [ unk ]. Let's take climate change as a given and all we really know is that something bad that's gonna happen, we just don't know how bad it'll be and how quick it'll have. We know that. We also know that resource depletion is related to climate change when operating independently. That is 90 percent of the world's fishing stop, fishing places are under stocked only partly by over fishing. Excess CO2 in the atmosphere has caused the oceans to bravely try to take out the slack and to suck more in. As they do, it's changing the chemical composition of the oceans, interrupting the food chain of the fish, often destroying microscopic live forms and for [ unk ] a lot of these places from restocking. You've got to lost of the trees, the lost of water or lost of top soil. E. O Wilson, a great Harvard Biologist says that we're losing plant and animal species at by far the most rapid rate since the first person stood up on the Africa and Sudan 150, 000 years ago and maybe even long before that. And it's possible that resource depletion will hurt us and lead to food wars and other wars even before the worst consequences of climate change because, let me remind you, the world's population is predicted to grow from its current six and a half billion to 9 billion in 43 years. So it took us 150, 000 years to get from one to six and a half billion and we're going from six and a half billion to nine billion in 43 years. Almost a hundred percent of those people are gonna be born in countries, not now able to support the people who live there, which gave a certain era of unreality to the recent debate in the Congress on the legal immigration. It's almost like [ unk ] said, let's not even bother to pass it now. Let's all paddle up 20 years and see what real hell looks like. I mean if you-- so, on the other hand, I do not buy even the conservative UN panels forecast that it would requires to accept the one percent reduction in Global GDP to appropriately reduce green house gas emissions. For 30 years, [ unk ] and sitting over there, next to my old buddy Sam Brown, two relics of the 60's and here we are. He and I [ unk ] not a relic. He's been telling you that you can make money out of this deal. This is crazy. You know, we could-- we could have the greatest mobilization of resources in America and greatest creation of jobs and the greatest effort to reduce income and equality certainly since we started to suffer from becoming inequality in the 70's. But I believe since we mobilize from World War II, if we got really serious about this. This is an economic boom. Mayor Bloomberg just put out, you know, he's part of this 40 cities, which I worked with to try to help from reducing green house emissions. So he puts out New York City's green house gas reduction proposal. All the press is about to propose congestion fee, 8 bucks a vehicle on people that go too deep into Manhattan and, you know, you can all imagine what the pros and cons are but Singapore and London have done it and it's been good for them but that's a tiny part of the green house problem. In New York City, only 20 percent of our green house gas is from transportation, 80 percent from buildings and the energy necessary to run that. We have 950, 000 buildings. Let's assume 50, 000 that are [ unk ] efficient and 50, 000 are about to be raised. We got 850, 000 left. How many people would it put to work? How many jobs would it create? How much wealth would it generate? And how many of those jobs would be lower- skilled jobs if we decided to green every roof, change every light bulb. Put in the most efficient glass, building insulation where it's structurally appropriate and put in automated controls on lighting and heating and cooling, where the systems would barred on those buildings. I've looked out over my-- at my window in Harlem and I look at all these buildings. Most of them are tile roofs. All flat roofs on a 90 degree day after two hours, the surface temperature would be about 150 degrees. If you go in and see all the roofs so [ unk ] put downside and put whatever vegetation the roof will hold that'll cut the surface temperature of the room to 80 lower than the ambient air temperature having drastic implications for reducing green house gas emissions and lowering the utility bills of all the businesses and renters in that building. This is not rocket science. And you cannot outsource these ups to India. Someone has to be standing on the roof. So, I-- and I can make the same argument all the clean energy sources that's just right through to you. I just think it's the greatest economy boom and, let me offer one other piece of evidence 'cause I don't wanna make up the whole period on this but in the United States, since 1973, when our income started to diverge, we've only had about one period, the last five or six years of my presidency when all income groups rose and inequality actually diminished, now I'd like to tell you is because I was an economic genius but that's not quite true. We had in the last six years of the 90's a source of new jobs which played above average wages changed the job mix in America and lift it all groups. It was the explosion of information technology out at Silicon Valley in the every element of American life. And it's still going on, that's why people stayed up all night for their iPhone. But if you think about it, there is no job in America that is like what it was 10 years ago. None not one. They've all been changed by information technology. In my time as president, it was 8 percent of total employment, 28 percent of job growth, 33 percent of income growth, therefore, you got a different mix, inequality went down, medium wages went up. We haven't done that in this decade. I think it's because we haven't embrace this decade source of new jobs. You cannot run a rich country, preserve the middle class and keep inequality from increasing in an independent world unless every five to eight years, you find the source of new jobs. You can't do it and our obvious source for this decade was a commitment to a clean, efficient independent energy future. You don't have to take my word for it. There are two examples, two European economies that are probably closest to America's are at least two of the ones that are closest are the UK and Denmark. Denmark has grown their economy 50 percent with no increase in energy use. Not one more or what and a reduction in green house gas emissions by generating 22 percent of electricity firm went. You know what happened? They're unemployment rates about what [ unk ] but their wages are going up and inequality is decreasing. The UK is even more like the American economy. When we walked away from Kyoto, and it wasn't just President Bush that walked away from it, let me remind you, before he rejected it and said it would be the end of free enterprise as we know it, the Senate voted against the Kyoto agreement that Al Gore and I stood out instead negotiated 95 to nothing. It's the only bill out of our lost. I think we lost it before Al Gore gone off the airplane from Japan. But I'm sure they voted against it before I even sent it to them. I never got a bill bid before I sent it up before It was the end of the world. You know what the British said? We like this but it's weak as dish water and we can do better. We're gonna beat our Kyoto targets 25 to 50 percent. Last year, the [ unk ] are not Prime Minister Gordon Brown issued a report saying they were gonna be their targets and detailing by in like 15 different categories. How many new jobs? Thousands upon, thousands upon, thousands of new jobs in every category had been created the United Kingdom because they made the decision to beat their Kyoto targets. As a result, they have about same unemployment rate we do but they are raising medium incomes and no imprison inequality. This is not rocket science. And we just-- the more we live in to now, the more we're gonna pay for it not only in terms of the burden we're left putting on our children and grandchildren but in terms of the knowing inequality with an American society which make Americans more reluctant to welcome immigrants, to show the new responsibilities around the world, suspend American tax dollars fighting the problems that I think we ought to be fighting around the world. ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"Clinton on the Environment","description":"Clinton discusses America's addiction to fossil fuels, climate change, clean energy and the information technology boom (9:52)","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/bwgTEatC/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2007-07-12T17:12:49.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/bwgTEatC.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/video/bwgTEatC/","duration":"PT9M52S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/video/bwgTEatC/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}} ```