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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: Bill Clinton Reflects on Steve Jobs [Watch (HLS stream): Bill Clinton Reflects on Steve Jobs](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/aBedjp9F.m3u8) (2:56)  _Published 2011-10-12. President Bill Clinton shares his memories and thoughts about the late Apple CEO Steve Jobs in an interview with TIME managing editor Richard Stengel at Chicago Ideas Week_ --- Jul 27, 2023 3:18 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [Bill Clinton on Unemployment and Occupy Wall Street](/video/SlPlNHT5/) ### Bill Clinton on Unemployment and Occupy Wall Street [Bill Clinton's Thoughts on the Economy](/video/Bz2SOyDp/) ### Bill Clinton's Thoughts on the Economy [A Conversation with Bill Clinton](/video/MdUlb7f7/):41 ### A Conversation with Bill Clinton --- ## Transcript Speaking of Time magazine, Steve Jobs is on our cover this week and I know you knew him for a long time. And, what I would like to ask you about him is not about technology but about leadership. What does Steve Jobs tell us about leadership in the twenty first century? Well, first I have to make full disclosure. When my daughter was at Stanford, he got in touch with me and said, it's hard to travel to see your child when you're President. I've got a place out in the country. You and Hillary can stay there and bring Chelsea and her friends there anytime you want to. He gave me a priceless gift. The opportunity to see my child while I was still a very public figure, so I'm highly biased in his favor. Plus even I can work an iPad and an iPhone. But I have breakfast with him four days before the first iPhones came on the market and he gave me a couple. God, he was like a kid with a new toy. The other thing is, I watched him fight his illness. I don't think that his leadership style would work very well for a political leader because you have to be somewhat more inclusive. You don't have the same amount of authority without checks, but look at the pattern of his life. He was a very determined man, who had imbited the most intense powers of concentration I ever saw. You know, it, it's ridiculous, if you look at the normal laws, that he lived as long as he did. I talked to him, not long before he died. He said, this cancer I have is very clever. And he said, I have beaten it back repeatedly. But I have fired all my ammunition, and it keeps coming up with new ways to attack me. I'm not sure I've got any more weapons left, but I've had a good time trying to beat it. I say that to you, to say the most important thing that I learned from watching him is, he figured out what he was good at, where his gift was, and he nourished his gift. The other thing is, he had a sack full of guts. Once he decided what he was trying to do, he was undeterred, and the way he handled his illness and managed to create space for Apple and all those creative things he did at the end of his life, and space for his family. And did it all with courage and deliberation, with absolutely clear eye. Was a site to behold. So, that's my advice. Nourish your gift and don't quit. Wow. 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