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_Published 2013-03-12. The key to analyzing how the new Pope will rule may lie in the factions of Cardinals that come together to elect him._


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## Transcript

The Cardinals going into the conclave, are very much think the same way, in terms of doctrine because Benedict the Sixteenth made sure that all of these Cardinals basically agreed with him in terms of doctrine. But, there are political differences among them which will divide them in any case, even though they all believe in the same sort of conservative agenda. We can break them into two sort of large amorphous groups which have some interaction and are not clearly distinguished and organized as, as factions, but we can look at them that way. [ MUSIC ]. The first one that's called the, the Repairers, not quite reformers, because they probably don't feel like they're going to change the nature of the church, to any great degree.

But they do want to fix the, priestly sex abuse scandals that have particularly humiliated the US and the European Cardinals. And that's why the American Cardinals have taken a, a rather forward stance in trying to propel a candidate who will repair the church immediately rather than letting this linger longer and longer. Their main candidate is strangely enough an Italian, the Cardinal of Milan, Angelo Scola. First he was the Patriarch of Venice and then he became the Cardinal of Milan. It's not very usual at all that one man is given two of the most important positions in the Catholic Church outside of Rome.

The Repairers are opposed by, what I'll call, the Bureaucrats. These are the members of a very very Italian institution called the [ FOREIGN ], which means, basically, the royal court of the pope. This institution developed from medieval times, and most of the people who held the positions were nobles or blood nobles or aristocrats. And so to this day, anyone who fills these positions still feels a sense of privilege. And they seem to be coalescing around, interestingly enough, not an Italian, but a Brazilian, the Cardinal of Sao Paolo, Cardinal Scherer, because he has very very deep links with the bureaucracy in Rome while also providing a historic choice which would be the non- European becoming pope.

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