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## Video: Sen. Clinton speaks to TIME

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_Published 2008-01-06. Clinton discusses lobbyist Jim Demers with TIME's Mark Halperin Sunday._


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## Transcript

>> I wanna ask you about something. You were making a point in the debate last night about Senator Obama and [ unk ] the lobbyist and they're talking about Jim Demers and his relationship to the pharmaceutical industry. And Senator Obama seemed to say it wasn't true. But it-- but it-- but it is true. So, what was the point you were trying to make, and do you think his answer deserves more scrutiny today?

>> Well, there is a big difference among the three of us. And I think it really boils down to, you know, talk versus action. And you can talk a great game about how you are, you know, really standing firm against a special interest. And then, when it becomes inconvenient, that you actually have a lobbyist running your campaign, you deny it. So, I think it's time we looked at talk versus action, and we really see who has both the special interest, who has carried through, who has produced results for people? And I think that will give the votes of New Hampshire some valuable information.

>> Your husband and-- I think other people who helped you in this-- have said he's not getting the same level of scrutiny from the press. Is-- if you made a statement like that in the debate, if you said something about someone in your staff that ties to lobbyist and just said it's not true and-- wrong, would that get more scrutiny? Do you think this has gotten so far?

>> Well, I think it is fair to say that, you know, I am subjected to very intense scrutiny. That is fine with me because I think we're electing a president. We're not electing a class orator, you know. We're trying to get somebody who can deal with the Russians and the Chinese and the Middle East, and the, you know, oil prices, and the fall of the dollar, and 47 million uninsured, and so much else. And it really matters whether somebody is able to produce results. And you know, if you compare my record, and you compare the fights that I've taken on, and the scrutiny that I have received over 16 years, I think that the argument the people have been making on my behalf, that I'm tested, I'm proven, I'm ready to be the candidate who can win and the president who can lead, makes, you know, a lot of sense.

>> Mark.

>> All right. Lou, Jim Demers is a nice guy, though, isn't he?

>> He's a nice guy.

>> All right. I just wanna [ unk ] directly.

>> Never-- You never say anybody is not a nice guy.

>> Yeah.

>> All right. Thank you both. Appreciate it.

>> But he's a lobbyist, right?

>> He is a lobbyist for the pharmaceutical industry.

>> He's a lobbyist. There's no question about that.

>> Thank you.

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