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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: WEF24 TIME100 Davos Dinner: Jane Goodall in Conversation with TIME CEO Jessica Sibley [Watch (HLS stream): WEF24 TIME100 Davos Dinner: Jane Goodall in Conversation with TIME CEO Jessica Sibley](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/XjgHyvkF.m3u8) (13:49)  _Published 2024-01-16. “The world is a mess,” Jane Goodall, the prolific environmentalist and foremost expert on chimpanzees, told TIME CEO Jessica Sibley at the TIME100 dinner on the first night of the summit._ --- Jan 16, 2024 7:56 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [TIME CEO Jessica Sibley Kicks Off TIME100 Impact Awards in Dubai](/video/Jyij20b8/) ### TIME CEO Jessica Sibley Kicks Off TIME100 Impact Awards in Dubai [WEF24 TIME100 Davos Dinner: Al Gore Toast](/video/N2miSaqY/) ### WEF24 TIME100 Davos Dinner: Al Gore Toast [TIME CEO Jessica Sibley Kicks Off The TIME100 Next Gala](/video/79gpZ0gv/) ### TIME CEO Jessica Sibley Kicks Off The TIME100 Next Gala --- ## Transcript Well, you need no introduction. What you have done in your 90 years is remarkable and this room all knows all about you what I want to talk about in the introduction is your character. I learned that you made your way up here. Protest traffic and someone stopped you a security guard and saw your face and started to cry. I also learned from a gas this evening that he has 10 grandchildren of all ages and every single one of them knows all about you chain. That is remarkable. You have touched people's minds their souls and their lives around the world. So thank you. It is my privilege and honor to be able to have this interview. Thank you Mark for allowing me to do it. Okay, let's start with the trees. Show me the face is this doable? I'm Festival. I think it's too low. Maybe not exactly a trillion maybe a bit more maybe a bit less. But you know with it with the climate crisis some loss of biodiversity, which are interlinked looming over us. We need to address every single solution that is like reducing emissions, like living more sustainable lives nature is one major solution and it's not only trees online. That's the kelp forest the secret recipe glands the Savannahs the Prairies, you know, they all can suppress the CO2 and the tragedy is as they are destroyed. They release all that stone CO2 into the atmosphere. So it's also reducing the ability of nature to help us. We need to fight when you blend energy. We need to do something about intensive phoning because that two of the emissions of nothing from animal factory farming is horrendous and all of these different problems. You know, the good thing is that the people really trying to fight each one of them show up on that working inside of I've been on scene that we all need to get together and Tackle them together and share the information. Marco is Isis question. So you've been working since the 1960s and he always asked and I've heard him ask this too many that he's introduced me to and to myself what's been your biggest surprise bigger surprise. Well who I am today is so weird to me talk about. How did you get here? Okay, I suppose God knows but that's what Robert Browning said when he was asked about him. You said you got on me and now it's only God know, but the only way I can get around it. It's this to James does this one just a little person, you know born to a very poor families who were working as a waitress to get my money for Africa and now look at look at me. Now, how did it happen? So there's this chain, but then the steps By National Geographic and Discovery and that sort of thing and I have to work really really hard to keep up with that. I come she believes me. Talk about you and nature and the impact that your family has had on you and your mother will my mother, you know, I think it's so important for parents to to realize it probably the most important thing they can do even more important than because some people kind of food to give the children will the food they need because they're in such poverty, but even in that situation if the parents and it could be the father or the mother support the child. I mean you have a little boy, he's four years old. I'm going to be a doctor to be something else and that's what my mother when everybody laughed at me when I was 10 years old and said, I was going to Africa to live with animals in my books about them. How would I do it? We didn't have money will 2 was raging and I was just a girl but she said if you really want this you been have to work really hard take advantage of every opportunity and if you don't give out hopefully you find a way. So you're here in Dallas. You haven't been here for a few years. What are you excited about? What are you hopeful about and can you give us some advice session Vegas day one? I think I'm losing my voice already. Well, I'm excited about meeting some great friends including mouth. I'm really grateful to Jeff far away. It's because he pushed and got me the schedule I have which may kill me but it's a good chat you so what do we need today? We need not just talkin. We need action and some of these powerful people in decision-making positions. It's no good. Just arguing with them. If they don't, you know, there are still people who say yes, the climate's changing but it's part of the cycle, but it may be part of the cycle, but it's enormously influenced by human activities. So, how do you say You've got to reach the heart. It's not the head people must change from within telling stories telling stories is really important. So I was talking to a group of CEOs the other day, I do this quite often, by the way. I know the CEOs in this who I'm sorry, but my back to all of you really help it I've apologized. So one of them came up to me afterwards. He's got a huge multinational corporation. He said for the last 10 years. I've been fighting to get my Corporation ethical sustainable in the country where we saw some products of supply chain or offices around the world and the way we treat our customers three reasons 10 writing on the wall. We're using up natural resources in some places. First of the nature can replenish them to consume. People are beginning to ask that this time the environment was it cruel to animals is it cheap cuz of unfair wages? But what tip the balance was my little girl 10 years old and she came home from school one day. She said Daddy the telling me that what you're doing is helping the planet. That's not true. Is it that he cuz it's my planet that screeches to a halt and that's what we have to do. We have to get all these powerful decision-makers to understand that action is needed now and you know somebody who who wasn't who made the first remarks about 40 countries having elections. Well, I personally think that unless a person who stands for election cares about the future cares about climate change loss of biodiversity. I'm so on then not fit to take office. Well, I promise you as Sam Jacobs editor-in-chief and Co time. We're going to make sure we tell those stories. We have the largest global audience in our history in the youngest. I think the youth are going to help to solve this problem for us. We're here at Davos rebuilding trust is our theme have we really lost Trust? What did what did you think about that? Well, I certainly think some nations of lost trust in others. I certainly think many people have lost trust in their politicians. I certainly think many people understand how much news is fake. I mean no longer know what to believe and what not to believe. It's a difficult world. We live in social media isn't helping Aloha can you know about Roots & Shoots, right you talk about the young people because young people even in 91 with losing her and they were telling me they were telling me that they lost hope because we had compromised their future and it was nothing they could do we haven't just compromise that future we have been stealing it, still stealing at today, but was it true that was nothing they could do know I truly believe and it's not only me it's other signs is to do we have a window of time. The tongue things around we've already talked about nature and the trees the trillion trees the oceans. Are we being talking about the plastic situation with Al Gore? And so I said to them look at your friends who these are 12 high school students in Tanzania, and I got their friends together. We had about 30 and we decided from Roots & Shoots with a main message every single one of you matters, every single one makes an impact on the planet every single day. That's all of us and we have a choice what sort of impact can we make unless we living in deep poverty and then we just have to do what it takes to survive. But everybody in this room and all our families we can make a choice as to what we do each day. So because I learned in the rainforest how everything is interconnected and has a role to play we decided every group with choose. We wouldn't tell them they would choose a project help people project help animals of project held the environment and that group of 12 high school students began a program. That's now in 70 countries with members from kindergarten to University and they are all I tell you as we speak tonight. There are Roots & Shoots him some countries planting trees walking people's dogs worrying about Street children's saving up money and sending it to the causes. They believe in that changing the world of that my greatest reason for hope You talk about the window. I'd imagine you think of that window is closing not opening, but correct me if I'm wrong. Correct urgency. Have we lost that urgency given the last year and the world events? The world is a mess. There's no question. We got these two terrible war is Raging there about 14 complex across Africa that's discrimination. And you know, the world is a mess and do we have the time we can turn things around but only if we take action now because I don't know how long how wide this window is? I don't know how many years we have but we are approaching the end but it's not the end if we get together now Time Magazine can make a huge difference because collecting up stories what the people need to take action. They need hope because if you don't have hope you give up you become apathetic and you do nothing. And if we ordered do nothing, especially the young people would do so, why do you think I'm still traveling the world 300 days a year at age 90 and polluting the atmosphere with the airplanes, but I don't do you know of my flight commercial and the plane would go without me. So I don't feel too bad and The Roots & Shoots groups of planting millions of trees. So they are absorbing and protecting for us to and we protect Forest by working with local communities lifting them out of poverty. So they don't need to destroy the forest to get money that's incredibly important on how one person can make such an impact already make these amazing people helping and supporting, you know from my mother to all the amazing young leaders were generating. Last question, I always like to attend on Hope and optimism, which is so much a part of what you do and who you are. What are you hopeful and optimistic about especially this week. Out of this week or just hear well Ivan. I hope I meet enough people that I can talk to and try to reach your heart. I mean the other one or two people whose names I would mention. I don't think they have a heart to reach but apart from that. Dr. Jane Goodall. Thank you so much. 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