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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: John Kasich on Joe Klein and Lady Gaga [Watch (HLS stream): John Kasich on Joe Klein and Lady Gaga](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/Xfr0r3hd.m3u8) (2:17)  _Published 2010-09-10. Ohio gubernatorial candidate John Kasich discusses his interview with TIME's Joe Klein and why he now prefers Rihanna to Led Zeppelin_ --- Jul 27, 2023 3:04 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [John Kasich Says GOP Health Care Bill Is 'Inadequate'](/video/CgfnfGwl/) ### John Kasich Says GOP Health Care Bill Is 'Inadequate' [Joe Klein's Road Trip: Partisans in Ohio](/video/N8fSLlr1/) ### Joe Klein's Road Trip: Partisans in Ohio [Joe Klein on the Road: The Ohio Governor's Race](/video/3Gg98klw/) ### Joe Klein on the Road: The Ohio Governor's Race --- ## Transcript >> Hop in, Joe. >> You know, I've known Joe a long time, so it was like catch- up time. There wasn't any big deal here. He made a suggestion that was very interesting. >> We blew it off actually. We blew off the whole interview and we started, Josh think we didn't interview. >> But, I mean, we've covered the whole globe, but he made a really important point that is now gonna be ripped off by me, so I'm gonna give credit one time. We have industrial regulatory policy rather than 21st century IT policy. We're behind the curve. >> and then-- and then I suggested to him that instead of doing regulations you needed to tax things that you don't like, like taxing pollution and taxing financial derivative transactions, but he wasn't gonna go there. >> That's Watts when I changed the subject, I mean, come on. >> I mean, since he's in the middle of an election campaign as if he's a republican, you can't talk about that? >> All of these years that I've been working with democrats, I always know what we can talk about and what we can't, or liberal, let's not do it. You know, what I, I know how far to go when you-- look, when you have a great friendship with Ron Dellums you know there just some things you stay away from, you know. But, no, seriously, it was great to cover the work-- the world with Joe and he's-- he's just really just an awesome guy-- >> And I wanna say that he's-- >> But he cannot trash me off to take it all back. >> He is-- you're better than Esrey. He, actually, I want him to do the five songs that he refused to do it, but he didn't admit to me that he likes Lady Gaga's music but not her dress. >> Well, you know, look, I'm going to see her. I'm going in March with my wife. >> You're going to her concert, yeah? >> Yeah, I'm gonna go see her, but, I mean, the problem is with all the music that's out there, that you never get the titles of it, you never even know who the band is, right? I just know what I like, and fortunately I've got 10- year olds, so you can imagine what I'm listening to, you know, so I'm totally up to speed and it's sortah funny. I'm not a little bit more interested, you know, when, Rihanna, than I am in Led Zeppelin. I mean, it's a complete change. All that heaviness is, kindah weighs me down-- >> Right. >> And I kindah like the light music. >> You're getting old. 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