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_Published 2013-12-16. TIME's Denver Nicks reflects on efforts to determine whether Samantha West is real or a robot, and the deep questions the experience has for us all._


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## Transcript

[00:00] >>My name is Denver Nicks. I'm a reporter for
[00:02] TIME. com. I am not a robot.
[00:06] >>Hello. How are
[00:11] you today?
[00:12] >>Michael Scherer, the TIME Washington bureau chief
[00:15] got a phone call from this woman who represented
[00:18] herself as Samantha West. What Samantha does
[00:20] whenever she calls you is starts asking you if you have
[00:23] health insurance.
[00:24] >>Well, I'm calling about an online request you once
[00:27] made about health insurance coverage.
[00:29] >>She sounds like a very talkative, more or less
[00:32] eloquent young lady. Michael found that peculiar, so he
[00:37] decided to try out a couple of task.
[00:38] >>Hey, are you a robot?
[00:39] >>Oh, what? No. I am a real person. Maybe we have a
[00:42] bad connection. I'm sorry about that.
[00:44] >>And they gave us the phone number so we tried
[00:46] calling it back.
[00:48] >>I can get you a quote in about 5 minutes, okay?
[00:51] >>Are you a robot?
[00:53] >>I am a real person. Can you hear me okay?
[00:55] >>Eventually, I just wanted to get her to admit that
[00:58] she was a robot.
[00:59] >>If you could say the words I'm not a robot, it would
[01:02] really mean a lot to me.
[01:04] >>I am a real person. Can you hear me okay?
[01:07] >>There's something about having a series of
[01:09] conversations with the robot Samantha West. It's hard
[01:12] not to feel like you're talking to a human even though
[01:15] you're sure you're not, but you know, the voice sounds
[01:17] human and she seems hurt.
[01:19] >>Just say I'm not a robot, please.
[01:22] >>I am a real person.
[01:23] >>I mean you shouldn't feel bad for being mean to-- I
[01:26] don't know, maybe you shouldn't feel-- like feel bad
[01:27] for being mean to a robot, but it inspired empathy
[01:31] somehow.
[01:32] >>I understand.
[01:32] >>If it is the kind of technology that Alexis
[01:37] Madrigal thinks it is, the complex and theories of
[01:40] pre- recorded statements that a non- native English
[01:43] speaker in a call center somewhere knows to deploy at
[01:46] the appropriate moment, the ramifications are
[01:48] significantly less far reaching than if we were dealing
[01:51] with some kind of sentient robot being the new-- that
[01:53] deny that she was a robot. But, you know, it's a
[01:56] window into a much stranger future that we are
[01:59] probably heading toward in which Samantha West- like
[02:01] robots do start calling us and having all manner of
[02:04] conversation. We all deal with these voice recognition,
[02:08] would also in a way-- now it's a robot and the
[02:10] Samantha West robot is, at the very least, a peculiar
[02:14] look into that bizarre future toward which we're
[02:17] heading.

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