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She graduates from Yale as an aspiring sportscaster. [ MUSIC ] And then as I recalled, forged a signature on some stationary in order to get a credential that said war correspondent in Bosnia, where she had the very good sense to launch a career in journalism, in the most dangerous story however, that she could be covering. From there she went on to Harvard Law School where a paper Turned into the book, The Wonderful [ UNKNOWN ], from there into the Harvard faculty to the Obama campaign as a Foreign Policy Advisor to Senator, and then to Candidate Obama, onto National Security Staff and then as the youngest U. S. Ambassador to the United Now that's an extraordinary course to have traveled in a very short period of time, which made me all the more struck by a New Yorker profile that said that Paula is sensitive about appearing unduly ambitious. [ LAUGH ] Which seems like a really good place to start because one, is that true? And two, If it is, what's that about? What's up with that? Do you have a couch? [ LAUGH ] I read an article that the editor of Real Simple wrote, I think, in just the last few days that quoted Deborah Spar from Barred. Saying that what women were now saying was that they were not ambitious, their new way of describing what they wanted to do was to say they're entrepreneurial. I was very entrepreneurial. No, in truth I think one of the reasons that The idea, I think there's a lot of deep psychological reasons that women and young women in particular are nervous and anxious about putting themselves forward and wanting things and there's a whole literature now on that that's I find fascinating. There's another aspect of it though where sometimes and I see this when young people, women and men alike, when they come up to me and I'll say What do you want to do and how are you thinking about your future? Like young foreign service officers, now who I have the privilege of working with. And they'll say, I want your job. And I'll say, I don't like that. Because I want to know what they want to do, not the title that they want to have. And so I think sometimes for me, the, everything that you described looked like this. Unbelievably sort of contrived and skillful Machiavellian journey to world domination. [ LAUGH ] And as it was lived. [ INAUDIBLE ] it's worked. As it was lived, it was the most chaotic, confused, contested Awkward. And what I tell again the young people that I talk to is that I think the best way to make any decision is by smell and by gut, rather than by trying. More and more young people seem to be wanting to map out and work backwards from a title to what are the things you need. If you If you said to me, how do you become US ambassador to the UN? You would not say, spend seven years of your life working on a dark book on American responses to the major genocides of the 20th century. Like, that wasn't a good career move on its face. [ LAUGH ] And indeed, even when I went to work for Barack Obama, which looks like the most Machiavellian thing I've ever done It was really about, just sort of being amazed that there is somebody who was asking the kinds of questions he was asking about, some of the [ UNKNOWN ] in foreign policy, the kind of things you couldn't say, as we've now learnt the engagements you couldn't do, let's say with Iran or with Cuba, these were all the kinds of things that right, again I thought, well, this is very unusual. I could Learned so much working with him on the Senate, and I had written my book, was working on another book, I thought I could learn so much about the Senate. So, I do think if you know sort of what the values are that are motivating you and what you are trying to achieve, I'm super ambitious around trying to make progress on human rights, or trying to liberate political prisoners, or prevent mass atrocities. I think the word ambition sometimes does tend to connote a kind of titular advance and I've always just found it frankly a better way to even, as it turns out, to achieve success if you're doing what you love for reasons that are kind of true to who you are. So, maybe that's where some of the Awkwardness almost in nomenclature comes from. I think the most radioactive part of this discussion that we have found as we've been exploring in at time and at real simple, is about whether there is the difference that we can generalize it all about intelligently about male ambition and female ambition. Mm- hm. And you have operated in some very male environments. Months. Ya think? [ LAUGH ] The UN has come so far. There are 193 countries in the UN and we have made great strides over this. The organization is celebrating its 70th birthday. 193 nations, when Madeleine Albright was in my job 20 years ago there were 7 women ambassadors. Then there were 182 countries and now there are 34 women ambassadors out of 193. So, we made great strides. We quadrupled or whatever, but yeah, quite male environment, definitely. So do you think that there's a difference in I think we're more self- conscious, certainly, about Saying you want x or y or putting it in frontal terms. But, I think a self consciousness is something probably that many of us have about how it's coming across or how it's received. I don't see a lot of self consciousness Among my peers in that respect. You talked about the difference between ambition as being something versus doing something. Mm- hm. That's interesting. That's a better way to put it. Yeah. And, as someone who came up as an activist, as someone who had very much a sense of mission, how did you think about the adjustment from being on the outside as a scholar, or as a journalist, or as an activist where you had enormous amounts of freedom at a distance versus being on the inside, much less freedom, arguably much more power. How did you think that through? << Well, for starters, my journalistic career including when I worked for TIME was about trying to get people in government to talk to me. And so, and to describe for me what meetings were like. I always tried to do narrative journalism to capture these moments where a meeting tipped and the decision was made not to do x or y or to do whatever. And so the big adjustment for me was just actually literally being in the Situation Room [ UNKNOWN ] And listening to all of the discussions that I had tried to extract from people on the outside, and I just couldn't believe I was there. And in the meetings, you know when you figure out everything from how to respond to the Haiti earthquake to what to do about mass atrocities in Syria or to and just I had a it was just a big adjustment to not feel like an intruder or like I shouldn't be there. Then, beyond that it turned out that, again because my load star remained the same as it had been when I was a journalist. I think by large how do you harness U. S. government power to try to How people are really vulnerable in the world. I mean, roughly that's the question. The answer is very elusive often, depending on the context, but then that question that gets asked of me a lot, you know, what's it like inside, outside, that question just melted away very, very quickly and became much more about Why won't the state department do what I want, and how do you move the levers of government together? It can be a beautiful, I mean it sounds kind of ridiculous talking about bureaucracy, but when everybody is rowing together on behalf of a bold move, or when we're mobilizing resources even on budget constrained time, to like help people now in Yemen who are literally starving. It's an amazing, hopefully we're gonna welcome more and more Syrian refugees to this country. It's a beautiful thing when you can get it moving. And so all the kind of bureaucracy and the red tape and the things that, in the abstract, I thought I would despise before going in, having always been You know, of just me and my laptop. I didn't really even know that they were just sort of there, and they had to, one had to find a way to move them. They didn't, I didn't spend a lot of time kind of going meta on the experience, if you know what I mean. There has been so much focus on how you not only would make. That adjustment. It was very unusual. I think of the many, many, many gifts you had displayed. Being highly diplomatic was maybe not [ LAUGH ] high on the list. [ LAUGH ] Right, but turns out that's an asset in diplomacy. [ LAUGH ] I really believe that. So how does that work? Well I'll give you an example of something thoroughly undiplomatic that I'm doing this very week. So Chine twenty years ago convened the Beijing conference on women and women's empowerment. Hilary Clinton, famously, spoke there and said women's rights are human's rights, human's rights are women's rights. It was a really seminal event. Here we are 20 years later, China is hosting the sequel associated with the UNs 70th birthday. All the heads of state are about to gather. And unfortunately, at the same time this meeting is getting held and hosted by China and the UN, there's a major crackdown on civil society in China underway. Including against Chinese women, including against women who are just human rights activist, free expression activist who happen to be women, but women who are actually advocating against sexual harassment. Women's things. And so what we did is, it turns out the US mission to the UN is just a beautiful building where I get to work everyday with my team, and it has this giant glass facade. And we decided to launch a campaign called Free the 20, about freeing women political prisoners. And so everyday in the run up to the Bejing + 20 conference. We're profiling a different woman political prisoner from around the world, including several from China. and this is not. << Are you like literally putting them in the window. << No, they literally, they're faces were there so when the leaders walk by in route to their fancy meetings, and I'll be at some of them although probably not the Beijing one I suspect. Not for lack of interest in attending, but The, but yes, people will, and it's, it matters not just, I'm joking that it's undiplomatic. It happens not to be the currency for diplomacy that kind of like hang pictures like that. It's a little NGO- y. But it does something more important than that, which is it humanizes concepts that at the U. N. become too abstract too often and So instead of talking about human rights generally, and women's empowerment generally, or even the silencing of women's voices, which we would be well disposed to complain about. This concretizes who it is we're talking about, and when you tell their stories, And the one I profiled today, a Vietnamese woman who had just been trying to help small farmers basically prevent their land from being seized by the government. And then was arrested just for, in effect, exercising free expression and trying to defend these farmers. You realize what is lost when those voices are taken away and when those checks and balances are taken away So, that's an example of something that's not very popular with my colleagues necessarily but I think it's useful that we have to be reminded that, again, when we talk about a crackdown on civil society, this is what we're talking about. We're talking about losing these valuable assets in these societies. And it's a journalist instinct in me to tell the story through an individual or individuals. Another of the things, I think, that has probably made you a particular object of fascination was taking this job. Who's pressures are extraordinary. And, it's a 24 seven job. There was accounts of in the early profiles of you, you know, nursing with a Blackberry in each hand. And I- On the phone with the Secretary General. [ LAUGH ] So famously- Not a nice image, the nursing part maybe but- Emily Slaughter was one of your law school professors? She was. So, famously wrote the Atlantic Story when she left her very high profile job at the State Department about Why women can't have it all. Her book will be coming out this month. Exploring the tensions- Mm- mm. we have. You find yourself as the mother to young children. In an extraordinarily demanding job, where the issues of balance are particularly fraught. I'm wondering, one how you handle it? And two whether you think it makes a difference, in your case, in agreeing to do this now? That it's finite, in that-- Yeah. Whoever the next president is, that he or she may want to appoint his or her own UN Ambassador and so you knew going in that it was not open- ended. Yeah, I mean, I I knew going in that it would not be open- ended, for sure. It felt like a finite assignment, it is a finite assignment. I have kids though, and both my kids I've had since I first worked at the White House for four years I had them, I had both my kids. One in 2009 and 2012 so they're now six and three. So the only life they've ever known is blackberry, distracted, mommy life. And, so I can't wait to just have a kind of quality of attention on the backend where I was with my daughter at her soccer practice, super soccer stars, in the [ UNKNOWN ] Circle over the weekend and I'm completely there at her soccer, but with the General Assembly coming up, I'm also stealing glances, as one does, at the Blackberry. And every time I would look up, she would just, she's three. [ LAUGH ] And I was caught. It was only maybe four or five times. It was just, they have eyes in the back of their heads. I remember when I was a kid. the same way like when is my parent going to get here and so my mother was also working too hard and too much so I think having that quality of attention is going to be magical, but I also think, what I try to do with them, Reann, my daughter is only three, so I've only just begun to start doing with, but my six year old Is completely in the loop on everything. And in fact I was telling my staff today, he got one of those National Geographic maps a long time ago, and started to learn the geography. But, he's obsessed with animals, as most six year olds are, and he honed in on Zimbabwe, because on the map that we have it had the most elephants. Elephants are his favorite animals, and so He keeps asking me and he does this about every two weeks, but. Is Mugabe still there? Is Mugabe still there? Your six year old [ LAUGH ] [ INAUDIBLE ] Because he wants to know when he is unleashed to do, and even the terminology like, there was a period where I knew what we were about to do with Cuba and I could not tell anybody even on my own staff. and so who do you tell? At that time he was five, so I tell my five year old, but it gets all complicated because I have to give him the history and then explain and then what's so great about a five year old is that then he interrogates it in the way that one should. So he's like well, So what did they do to us? Like what exactly did they, he couldn't understand why. Cuz I said so we stopped doing business with them and sending clothes and toys. He's like toys! [ LAUGH ] You know so then he wanted to know what did they, they must have done something really, really bad. And so But I explained, you know, we had this thing called the embargo and now the President's gonna come and lift the embargo and we're gonna have much more contact, and we'll get to know them, and this and that. Then that very day I got a call from the school nurse, and he had been In a game where he was pretending to be an animal. And he'd been kicked in the nose and had a bloody nose and no big deal. But he grabbed the phone from the nurse and the kid he had been playing with, his name's Sawyer, who kicked him. And he said mommy, Sawy needs an embargo. [ LAUGH ] Sawy needs an embargo. So if nothing else I do feel the work life balance Isn't great but he'll come away with just, and honestly, geopolitics can be put so easily in kids' terms. Like, Putin, don't steal part of someone else's country. And you can put that in terms of, can you imagine if a kid came along and And, so, Crimea is like, been, we've figured out what is Crimea in his toy set, and I explained why taking it away is not a good idea. [ LAUGH ] There'll be some good that comes out of this stint even if it isn't To enforce a timeout. Yeah. Yeah, time out for Putin, exactly. [ LAUGH ] I do wanna ask That would be a good one. I should try that in the Security Council. Especially going into next week, when the whole world, Yes Comes here to clog our traffic, and our airwaves, and raise every important question imaginable. I am curious about how you think. The US approach on the refugee crisis unfold. What's our strategic interest? What's our moral interest? And how do you see that debate going? Yeah. Well first let me say that I have the meta concern as a member of the cabinet and as someone privileged to have this job. Just that the visit goes smoothly. We have President [ UNKNOWN ] coming to China. We have the Pope coming both to Washington then to New York, then we have more heads of state descending than I think ever before in the history of the U. N. so it really is gonna be cluttered. So I gotta think, you know, big thoughts about how do we, you know, stitch all this together, and what's out strategic framework, and your question about refugees, which I'll come to, and how do we leverage these meetings to get real good done in the world. It's not every minute that you have all the heads of state descending. But then I have a more parochial concern which is How the hell is my family gonna get into our home because we live in the center of it and we live in the Waldorf- Astoria where the investors always live where all the heads of state come and they have their security. And so, last year, my husband couldn't, he doesn't have the same last name as I do, and he couldn't get into our building And, I was complete, I was juggling everything. I was like, Cass you know, get over it, you'll figure it out, like go to a diner. I'm like. [ LAUGH ] [ LAUGH ] For the week? [ LAUGH ] No, not for the week. Though there are all night diners in new. Come on, they're all night diners. No, but I was just, I was literally trying to talk to the president about his next meeting, and then suddenly I've cast like, you know on speed dial. Like trying, like I can't get in the Waldorf, how am I gonna get in the Waldorf. And so, but the president overhead a version of this conversation And it's like, seriously, that's your reaction to your husband not being able to get into the Waldorf Astoria? [ LAUGH ] And I was like, hey, it's just, it's just, I just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna deal with it, but I just can't deal with it right now. It's like, seriously? If Michelle did that to me, like if our roles were reversed, no, no, no, you call him back! [ LAUGH ] And so then he got the head of Secret Service involved and everything so it was like a parody of, [ LAUGH ] So it is a very intimate community that I'm a part of. So even the little kind of glitches in one's personal life can be amplified. In terms of your more serious and important question, I think Look, this is a year in the General Assembly where we have actually a few things to celebrate and can feel good about the possibilities of collective action. The P5 plus one came together when Iran was in breach of non- proliferation norms, imposed sanctions, now we have an agreement that You know we will cut off if implemented. We will cut off Iran's pathway to a nuclear weapon. So the UN community as a whole feels good about that, we feel sort of amazed frankly that after a very slow start on Ebola last September we were passing around charts at this general assembly when all the heads of state came saying there are going to be a million infections says the CDC by January. And like it was not clear once it got that out of control that it could ever be put in back into the box. And the president led and he leveraged our leadership to get other countries onboard. So people are feeling good however you also have the visceral and visible heartbreak that these families are feeling and the inability on the part of the neighbors to continue to absorb more flow. The funding deficits. The United States has spend $ 4 billion funding refugees and displaced persons and it's not a fraction of what is needed. Right now, they are cutting off rations to parents like me who are just trying to feed their kids never mind even send their kids to school. So, I think we have been working intensively on the present's direction in the advance of the Pope's trip, in advance of the General Assembly, to see how many more refugees we are able to take in this country. We are in a sequestered climate, so we wanna make sure that people who come to this country have money and are able to be settled appropriately. And. That this is an appropriate transition for them. We also recognize the vast majority want to stay in the region, wanna speak their own language but need better conditions in those regions. So, whether it's in terms of how many more we can take or how much more money we can mobilize, we also need citizens and the private sector to be involved if more refugees are coming to have Companies come forward and say hey, we're gonna hire some number of refugees to do x or y, just like we do for veterans. To have foundations looking also at how we can mobilize untraditional donors because the truth is, Nancy, as big as the gap is between the needs and the resources being provided It's not for a lack of generosity. It's a lack of sufficient generosity, clearly, cuz the needs are so much greater but it's that we've never had 60 million refugees and displaced people before. The systems are just buckling under the weight of that. Wars that have always been horrific, and even the ones that I covered when I was a journalist, like in the Balkans or in Rwanda or in [ UNKNOWN ] They ended. And the challenge now is wars are not ending as quickly as they once did. And that's also places a premium on the political push that has to be made alongside the effort to kind of deal with the heartbreaking kind of symptoms of conflict. But we will do more, we're gonna try to. Leverage or participation in the general assembly to get others to do more. But the root causes and the politics of the conflict have to be addressed right along side of it. There's so much we could talk about about the Iran deal. And I was interested if it was implemented as you put it. More about Syria but I want to give our audience a chance to have one last question which actually arose from the poll that we ran on this subject last year. We ask people whether they wanted their bosses job. Have to ask you that. Which boss? I want to stay in my job for the rest of my life I would stay in my job for the rest of my life. I'm Particularly as a mother because I have such sympathy for my colleagues at the State Department who have very senior jobs. They might be the Assistant Secretary for Asia or for, and half of their years on the road, away from their families altogether, mind that I'll leave here, go back to the office, come home late tonight, But I get to kiss my kids good night and the world has come to, I mean this job is perfect actually. If you have to be in a high stress, impossible sort of seven day a week job, and you're in foreign policy, at least go to A place where the world is come to your neighborhood once play dates on your turf as it were so I'm super happy. ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"Women And Success: Samantha Power - Full Panel","description":"Women And Success: Samantha Power - Full Panel","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/UVG9qR5p/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2015-09-18T00:30:29.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/UVG9qR5p.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/video/UVG9qR5p/","duration":"PT24M57S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/video/UVG9qR5p/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}} ```