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In Previously Unseen Video, Ruth Bader Ginsburg Looks Back at How a Legal Pioneer Laid the Groundwork for Sex-Discrimination Cases_ --- Feb 22, 2024 1:55 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [In Memoriam: Ruth Bader Ginsburg](/video/gGufB4id/) ### In Memoriam: Ruth Bader Ginsburg [Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized for Treatment of Chills and Fever](/video/piJR8va7/) ### Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized for Treatment of Chills and Fever [Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Cancerous Growths Removed From Lung](/video/y76yvR5M/) ### Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Has Cancerous Growths Removed From Lung --- ## Transcript Did you see the picture of Polly Murray's class at Howard with the lone woman? When did I first become aware of Polly? Mary? In the summer of 1958, I was engaged as a summer associate in a law firm, and I was taken to meet the lone woman associate, Wally Mary. I thought she was remarkable. She had written the book about her family, proud shoes, and I had read that. So I knew a little bit about Polly. My closest affiliation with her was when she was on the board of the ACLU. I saw her working at her office in Paul Weiss, but that was just leading as I was going down the corridor. The 14th Amendment contains my favorite clause of the Constitution, and nor shall any state deny any person the equal protection of the laws. Polly had the idea that we should interpret the text literally. It said any person, not any male person. She wrote this remarkable article called Jane Crow and the Law, where she called attention to all the laws that restricted what women could do. But unlike race discrimination, they were all rationalized as favors for the ladies. For example, women were not permitted to serve on juries. It was thought that would distract them from their responsibility at home. The idea of Jane Crow was to show that classifications dividing the world up that way were not benign. They did not operate benignly in women's favor. Years later, Justice Brennan put it very well. He said the pedestal on which women were thought to stand more often than not turns out to be a cage. Really, which was the turning point. Gender discrimination case in the Supreme Court. Number four Read again Supreme. Sally reads Case was ideal to open the court's eyes. The case on facts was heartrending. The law was as arbitrary as it could be. Males must be preferred to females. The actual wording of the 14th Amendment is very simple. The case itself presents a large and I think, significant problem. I wrote the brief in Sally Reed's case. I put on the cover only Murray's name. By the time I read, Polly had already changed her interest. She was going to divinity school. She was into ministry, not lawyering. But we knew when we were writing that brief that we were standing on her shoulders because she was the one that sparked the idea that the 14th Amendment should protect the right of men and women. Boys and girls should let them be free to be you and me. That is to follow their talent as far as it could take them. Unlike Polly, who was way ahead of her time, I was there at the right time. 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