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## Video: Apollo 11's Next Giant Leap

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_Published 2009-07-22. While the 40th anniversary of Apollo 11's lunar landing inspires many to reflect, mankind's future in space is the next debate_


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## Transcript

>> The 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 lunar landing is a cause for reflection. Anything that gets people talking about space again is a good thing particularly when the part of it they're talking about is the possibility of returning to the moon.

>> There has been a lot of controversy about going back to the moon. I think from a scientific point of view we have hardly even scratched the surface of a body that could probably reveal a lot about the earth.

>> We wanna go back to the moon so that we can understand the long duration, habitation, and an other worldly body and that's what we can do establishing a colony on the moon.

>> The people who want to see us return to the moon are smart enough to know that time is always of the essence because once momentum begins to fade in NASA programs, those programs tend to go away.

>> You have to marshal the political will. You have to provide the resources, which is exactly what President Kennedy did.

>> I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal before this decade is out of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.

>> Presidents have not led very effectively on this since President Kennedy. Ronald Reagan's vision for an international space station took 25 years to build. It's still not done. The first President Bush talked about returning to being on Mars by 2019. That's clearly not gonna happen.

>> Today, I announce the new plan to extend a human presence across our solar system.

>> When President Bush announced what's called the vision for space exploration in January of ` 04 calling for us to go back to the moon, there was no compelling political question to which going to the moon was the answer.

>> It was a virtual perfect storm of things that really came together, the Apollo moon missions of the 1960s and 70s. The most important was the geopolitical situation that is a post- war situation in which there were two great models for how one organized societies really out one another in a cold war. So, there were several components that really came together that made this a unique opportunity in history, I think.

>> That was the biggest difference between 1961 and 2004. So, it has to be done on its own merits as something that humanity, in this case I hope led by the United States, does is take people off the surface of this planet and a couple hundred miles in earth orbit and once again go somewhere.

>> When I was growing up, NASA inspired the world with achievements that we're still proud of.

>> I think you will see President Obama come out and ring that clarion call like President Kennedy did and say, let's go. Let's go and explore. He's already said, for example, in the campaign he wants to be on the moon by 2020.

>> The debate, as always, is about money. Going to the moon and going to Mars is very expensive. Dave Scott, the commander of Apollo 15, was speaking in Washington yesterday and he playfully said that a mission to Mars would cost roughly 2 jillion dollars. Now, it might not be that much, but it will be very expensive to do it. The moon obviously is an order of magnitude cheaper and an order of magnitude easier, but it still will cost tens and perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars.

>> I just have to feel the course that we're on right now is too expensive and I'm not sure that I see why we need to go back to the moon when we've already been there. By the time we get there, it will be 50 years. Let's do something progressive. Let's do something that American will be proud of and we can improve rockets as we begin to go to the moon of Mars, several visits there before we set up settlements.

>> I think going to the moon back again gives us the technology. It's been, what, 40 years as we went to the moon. I'm sure that the technology of space science and, you know, materials and things like that are greatly improved. They can then be utilized for a Martian trip whether it's in participation with the United States or whether it's gonna be some other consortium of countries.

>> The nations that have not been to the moon should go to the moon and we should help them, but I don't see the justification for our allocation of our resources. I don't see the development. You develop places you've explored. You explore places you haven't been and we haven't been to Mars yet. That's a far more fascinating place to go to than to the moon.

>> Well, I think going back to the moon is the first step in a century's long process of migration of humanity into the solar system. I think we will see, not in my lifetime, not quick, but at some point in the future, people being born, lived, die on other planets. That humanity will become a multiplanet specie and going back to the moon is the first step in that direction.

>> We go to the moon for the same reason we dance, and write music, and write poetry, and tell stories, and build gigantic magnificent skyscrapers when a featureless [ unk ] lab would be cheaper and more practical because we're an idiosyncratic and artful species that likes to do this kind of thing. That's the biggest reason to go to the moon, but it's not the one you could ever sell to a senate budget committee.

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