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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: The Techland Show, CES Edition (Sorta) [Watch (HLS stream): The Techland Show, CES Edition (Sorta)](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/PCBWf6hz.m3u8) (5:12)  _Published 2010-01-08. Techland's Lev Grossman and Steven James Snyder talk about CES, Avatar and Apple II games in this week's show_ --- Jul 27, 2023 1:18 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [Techland's Top Five: Tron, March Madness and More](/video/h8TyNIe6/) ### Techland's Top Five: Tron, March Madness and More [Techland's Hands-On With Apple's iPad](/video/TvBlsebY/) ### Techland's Hands-On With Apple's iPad [The Techland Show, Spidey Edition](/video/fwmNjlQU/) ### The Techland Show, Spidey Edition --- ## Transcript >> Hello and welcome to the Techland Show. I'm Lev Grossman. >> I'm Steve Snyder. >> And Peter Ha is not here. >> He's in good old Vegas, were he is in most weekends but he's gone there during the week this week. >> Yeah, I know. It's a work thing this time. He's at CES, covering this year's big announcements in consumer technology. Funny- fun fact, consumer technology reporters hate to go to CES. >> And why is that? >> Because it's always a nightmare and there are a lot of things going on at once and all the cool things that are announced, you write about it and then a year later you're like, whatever happened to that thing that was gonna solve global warming? Oh it never came out. Yeah, they never have the-- it was just a prototype. >> You think this might be where 3D TV will be in a couple years, that it was the big hype this year but does anyone really care? Would you watch 3D TV? >> No, I-- I don't know. I don't watch 2D TV. >> Uh huh. >> I watch 1D TV. It's just, it's just a dot. >> Microsoft's very aggressive move trying to steal a little of Apple's Thunder, I guess. >> It didn't look that impressive though. I've been watching all the demos and I'm not sure. >> No, I mean it's funny, I was at Comdex in like 2000? And Microsoft showed up the tablet then. So, you know, I guess we've come full circle. >> And it sounded like they have a lot of technical glitches right before the presentation which I thought was sort of ironic. >> It is ironic. Microsoft is very familiar with that kind of irony. I just-- the tablet-- I tend to be a skeptic about it, there has been really no demonstrable consumer demand for this product that has been the flavor of you know, the decade, you know. If anybody can create demand for something that nobody realize they wanted, it's Apple. But it's gonna take Apple to do that. Microsoft can't do that. >> But the big thing so far came out before CES when Peter was out, I think for putting up a video, they're probably be up by the time anyone watches this show of you know, breaking down the Google phone. >> Yes. >> They said-- >> Google made a phone. >> I'm a TV guy, movie guy. I don't, I don't know gadgets. >> Yeah. >> Nexus One. >> Yes, the-- you know it's weird for Google to be getting in to the consumer hardware business. That's very odd and otherwise, you know, Android is now another competitive smart phone running Android, makes it more attractive to apps writers I guess. It's not a revolutionary thing at all. >> I've seen Peter was saying that the functionality is really good. It's, you know, it's good when it comes to just smart phones. But it's still no Iphone and don't even pretend that it-- it's-- it could be. >> You know, no one's gonna switch from the Iphone cause they have to have Google phone. >> Wish I had an Iphone. >> Yeah, I have one. It makes my life a non- stop festival of joy. >> Until the battery dies. The first week everyone's like, yeah the box office is okay. >> Right. >> And now it's made more than a billion dollars. I don't know, the consensus seems to be the special effects really are that ground breaking. >> Yeah, he did it. He did what he said he was gonna do. >> He did. >> The [ unk ] I think got over it. >> King of the world. >> And how do you feel about its Oscars finishes. >> Oscars, I mean it's seems-- I've been reading you know, some of those Oscar pundits and they seem to say that the sure things are, " Up in the Air ", " Precious ", and " Avatar ". It seems to just be accepted now that this-- that when the critical reviews match the hype, when the box office match the hype that this thing could really go out there. I think the best chances that might have are the best actress area. I've written about this >> Yeah. >> That this could be the first CG performance that gets some serious, you know, could be one of the 5 nominees for best actress. -[ unk ] should, I don't know. >> That would be cool. But that-- the Academy's they're all phoneys right? They don't. >> They are phoneys. >> Green on black. Why would you need more colors than that? >> And what was the one-- there was one that you couldn't find a link to or a video to. >> Boloman. If anybody out there is a fellow Boloman, call me. >> You send him a video, we'll put it up. But what-- they can find the whole list though it's still up right? The top 10 Apple 2 games. >> Yeah. It's the most underrated, underrated gaming platform of the 80's, I think. It's were it all began. >> And what's your favorite? What was the number 1? >> Lode Runner. You're that little dude that dig holes, bad guys would fall in to them. This is what I do-- in my dreams. >> That's the next book we can look forward to. >> I dig-- >> That's the guy who digs holes. >> I dig holes. Page 2, Peter falls in to it. That's what happens in my dreams. ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"VideoObject","name":"The Techland Show, CES Edition (Sorta)","description":"Techland's Lev Grossman and Steven James Snyder talk about CES, Avatar and Apple II games in this week's show","thumbnailUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/v2/media/PCBWf6hz/poster.jpg?width=720","uploadDate":"2010-01-08T15:53:29.000Z","contentUrl":"https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/PCBWf6hz.m3u8","embedUrl":"https://time.com/video/PCBWf6hz/","duration":"PT5M12S","potentialAction":{"@type":"SeekToAction","target":"https://time.com/video/PCBWf6hz/?jw_start={seek_to_second_number}","startOffset-input":"required name=seek_to_second_number"}} ```