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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: TIME Interviews Shimon Peres [Watch (HLS stream): TIME Interviews Shimon Peres](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/MMFVPSmj.m3u8) (3:39)  _Published 2016-02-12. In an interview with TIME, former Israeli President and Prime Minister Shimon Peres talked about the past efforts and current obstacles to peace with Palestinians_ --- Jul 27, 2023 7:38 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [President Obama On Shimon Peres: "He never stopped dreaming"](/video/l4WzdgQU/) ### President Obama On Shimon Peres: "He never stopped dreaming" [Pope Francis To Host Peres, Abbas At Vatican Prayer Meeting](/video/MHZ4kPuU/) ### Pope Francis To Host Peres, Abbas At Vatican Prayer Meeting [10 Questions for Shimon Peres](/video/AGcrw599/) ### 10 Questions for Shimon Peres --- ## Transcript [ BLANK_AUDIO ] Suspicion, hatred, mistrust. The greatest problem today is mistrust. Mistrust produces terror. And each side blames the other side. So it's a machine that works for itself, And we have to bring it down. Do you think that having a Palestinian state alongside Israel is possible? I think it's the only thing which is possible. In order to bring an end to terror or violence and hatred. How did you go from being this military man, this hawk to becoming the face of the peace movement? What made you change? I didn't change. I think the situation has changed. As long as there was a danger to the existence of Israel. I was what you would call a hawk. You know, it's not a simple story because the United Nations has decided to build two states. A Jewish state and an Arab state. Palestine and Israel. We accepted; the Arabs refused. Not only did they refuse, but they attacked Israel. We have had to work hard day and night in a creative manner to build our defense system. The minute I felt the Arabs are open to negotiation. Then I said that's what we prefer, too. We weren't looking for war. We are looking for peace and security. One of your other achievements throughout the years was creating Israel's nuclear program. What ld you to create that, and do you feel very proud of it? We discovered and built two new things. A new agriculture, which is based on high- tech, And we produce our weapons to defend ourselves. Now I know that many people in the world are suspicious that we are going to build nuclear bombs and so on. All of a sudden we found that well. If they want to be suspicious, let them be suspicious. It deterrent. Because many Arabs out of suspicion came to the conclusion that it's very hard to destroy Israel. Because of it, because of their suspicion. Well, if the result is Dimona, I think I was right. We never threatened anybody with nuclear bombs. And we didn't test something like it. What is the future of Israel without an agreement? We will see terror, bloodshed, hatred, victims, everything. If there won't be a two state solution, it will be an ongoing violence. And tragedy for all sides, for all people. [ NOISE ] The opposite to just is wrong. And you cannot compare it. Two states can bring peace. The lack of two states Can prevent this. And nations without peace, people without peace are going to live in a terrible tragedy, totally unnecessary. 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