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## Video: Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson

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_Published 2008-12-12. Justin Fox interviews Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson a month before he steps down_


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## Transcript

>> I'm Justin Fox from TIME Magazine here with Secretary of the Treasury, Hank Paulson. So, it's the middle of the December 2008 and it's been an interesting year. I guess the first-- Are you counting the minutes 'til January 20?

>> Justin, I'm not counting the minutes, but I don't know I've got 40 days left and I think I still got some significant challenges in front of me. So, I'm really focused on the present.

>> I mean, is that hard to do? I would just imagine that elsewhere in the administration in a normal time, in a normal administration the recent winding down, getting ready to handover.

>> Yeah. I would say just in general a transition is a difficult period. It's just-- just this. It's a-- It's one of the things that's really peculiar to our country, but we've been focused for sometime on making this a first- rate transition and given the fact that my successor has been involved in so much of what we've done, I think that's just a good signal for the markets and it's going to make this go smoother.

>> Are their things that you think about now that you were sure at about how the world worked in January that you've decided are completely wrong?

>> If you would set to me in January, could I ever foresee the need for the type of government intervention that has been necessary? You know, the answer of that is obviously I didn't foresee that and if someone taken out of context and said to me she wouldn't that be abhorrent, I would have said you bet yah. So, as I have explained to a number of people, some of the easiest decisions for me to make have been to do things that are very unpleasant, bordering on the abhorrent, but that they're-- they're much better than the alternative.

>> Just thinking back to September, so-- I mean, you were on magazine covers, you were this great bipartisan figure, everybody liked you.

>> Right.

>> Obviously, you know, that has been impossible to maintain that a public persona--

>> Yeah.

>> what-- I mean, do you-- did you expect this when things started unraveling?

>> I just haven't had time to focus at it. I had not wanted to be on magazine covers. The one magazine cover referred to me as King Henry and that only made it more difficult working with Congress and everyone else. I am secure in the knowledge that we have been dealing with is totally historic situation and so I've just got a judge our performance by the-- what's doable, what is doable. Right now, the most important thing for any of us to get through this is to slow the housing price decline and nothing is more effective in doing that than having the available low cost mortgage financing. So again, this is something we've really been pushing through those institutions.

But any new team coming in here will have not only a whole range of challenges confronting them looking forward, but a range of programs that need to be understood and run and my successor will understand everything we've got in place because, you know, he's-- we worked collaboratively on all of these.

>> Once your successor is in that office over there, what are thinking they're doing?

>> I try-- I'm looking forward to answering your question and I have not had time to do that. I know I'm not going to go back to the private sector and I know I'm not gonna retire and I've longed been interested in conservation. I've interested-- I'm an English Major. I like to write. I've got a lot of interest and so I will not--

>> You've been reading a book about all this?

>> I get-- I won't made any decision. I have not scheduled any meetings after January 20th. This has been a--

>> What about sleep? Is that--

>> What-- I don't see no if there was a time. Everybody asked me that and I think I must look really bad on TV or in pictures, because people see me and say, " Oh, you look good in person, you know ." But I have-- The time when I was working this through Congress, I didn't sleep and the reason I didn't sleep was there was nothing more frustrating than seeing a problem and we knew that you couldn't go to Congress and get them to act unless there was a real crisis. And if you went and thy didn't act, it was-- we were gonna go into the abyss and so-- And being there, seeing the reality of that first vote in the House and, you know, I felt a fair amount of pressure then, but other than that, it's just a challenging difficult job and I work hard during the day and sleep well at night.

>> Thank you very much for this interview Secretary Paulson.

>> Justin, it's great to be with you.

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