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## Video: Nayib Bukele 2017 TIME Interview

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_Published 2024-08-29_


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## Transcript

We embrace counter culture, skating, graffiti. Instead of keeping them in the shadows, we channel that to positive things. If sample, if they want to paint a wall, let's paint it. But let's paint it with a positive message. At the end of the time, instead of persecuting gang members, we're competing and recruiting the kids to good things. We're giving back the city to our citizens with the best way we could. People that are committed the crimes are 18-year-old, 16-year-old, 17-year-old. So if we had investor into communities, all of these will be positive agents of change instead of gang members.

People minds is changing already. People are already thinking of their city differently. And if we can resonate more of that in the national scale, probably we have a very different country in a few years from now.

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