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They are at time.com/newsletters and are separate from a paid subscription. ## Video: Fringe Presidential Candidates [Watch (HLS stream): Fringe Presidential Candidates](https://cdn.jwplayer.com/manifests/0L0jjGoR.m3u8) (8:36)  _Published 2008-01-18. Senior Editor Nathan Thornburgh traveled to New Hampshire recently to meet with some truly unique presidential candidates._ --- Jul 27, 2023 12:41 PM UTC --- ## More From This Series [All Videos](https://time.com/video/) [What You Should Know About FIFA's Presidential Candidates](/video/o4bNgB47/) ### What You Should Know About FIFA's Presidential Candidates [What do you say to a presidential candidate that doesn't get elected?](/video/V5TLaLww/) ### What do you say to a presidential candidate that doesn't get elected? [Presidential Candidate Vermin Supreme](/video/Wjjtas3P/) ### Presidential Candidate Vermin Supreme --- ## Transcript [ MUSIC ] Hi, I'm Nathan Thornburg, Senior Editor at Time. Four years ago, photographer Shane Carpenter and I went to New Hampshire to cover the 2004 primary campaign. We kept running into what they call lesser candidates though. They were on the New Hampshire ballot just like George Bush or John Kerry, but they were a lot more fun to cover. There was Dick Bosa, the aggrieved former mayor of Berlin, New Hampshire. He and another candidate named John Buchanan, who was this manic campaigner with a number of restraining orders against him, also acted as each other's campaign managers. Or Robert Haynes, who brought his kids, and sometimes his gun, to campaign events. Fern Penna was painfully shy for someone who was running for the highest office in the land. Bill Wyatt's main strength was that he ran a t- shirt shop in Los Feliz, in LA, and made some really cool campaign paraphernalia. Anyhow, we chase these guys up and down that frozen state. Michael Callis, the fiddler, Robert Linnell, whose wife wouldn't even vote for him. Donald Rigazio, who liked to hand out $ 100 bills with his pamphlets. Spending time with those guys taught me a lot more about participatory democracy, I think, than hanging on the periphery of any of those slickly produced major campaigns would have. This year we went back. Most of the guys from 2004 have moved on but there's a fresh batch of lesser known candidates. 13 Democrats and 12 Republicans you never heard of for the most part fighting like hell to get people to take their campaigns as seriously as they do. My name is Richard Caliguiri, I am 53 years old from Wilkinsburg Pennsylvania. I'm up here in New Hampshire obviously because I'm running for President of the United States. Richard Mad Dog Caligiuri from Pittsburgh running for President of the United States. You got my vote. Alright that's the one, that's the one I was looking for. So what would drive a guy like Caliguiri who campaigns under the name of Mad Dog to spend so much time chasing this pretty impossible dream? Most of these guys are really animated by a single issue, something they think the rest of the country has forgotten about. For Dr. Hugh Cort a psychiatrist from Alabama, that issue is terror. The question is, is my message a little bit dark? Well I think the people of America want to be warned if Osama Bin Laden's going to attack them and I'm the only candidate that can stop this. And we're praying, with God's help, that we can stop this thing. We have evidence that Osama Bin Laden is planning devastating attacks on America. His American Hiroshima plan to blow up ten cities with nuclear devices. Two southern candidates I've met seem like they came straight from central casting. Meticulously groomed, well informed, always on message. I caught up with Dan Gilbert while he was getting a $ 400 haircut, a la John Edwards, at the Hair Biz salon in Concorde, with the proceeds going to the Autism Society. The reason I'm running for president is that about a year ago, I realized that the Republican Party and also all the politicians in Washington D. C. were not going to do what's best for our country. Cap Fendig had an equally intense focus on winning. Well, my name is Cap Fendig and I'm from St. Simons Island, Georgia. We've been campaigning everyday since September the sixth. Sold my business. Everything that I had except for my home. Our children would get mad if they knew how much money. [ LAUGH ]. We, spent and. [ LAUGH ] But no, it won't affect their inheritance, but it, it is quite a bit of money. It's a, a lot more than an expensive college education, I'll say that. It costs a $ 1000 to get on the ballot and for some of these guys, that's a lot of money. For Michael Skok, a candidate from near Buffalo, New York, that makes him wonder if it was worth it. My folks are all against it running for President because it's expensive. And so, they were real, my mother was real mad at me cuz I spent the, the $ 1000 on on the fee and she was calling me all, all kinds of some real bad names. When I came here I thought it was maybe I did make a mistake, and I should've stayed home [ LAUGH ] You know how lots of kids want to be President when they grow up? Well, the people I met are already grown up. They're limo drivers, doctors, retired municipal workers, but they think they can still be president. I absolutely believe that I have the, the potential to win. Well, when I began running for President of the United States, it was two- and- a- half years ago. It was a mission placed in my heart and I decided to follow it. I'm close to retirement. I think it'd be great, retire from my day job and become President of the United States. I actually get the willies, thinking I could win this thing. The fact of the matter is I'm an experienced man and I know what's going on in the world and I know how to deal with these global issues. Here's what we need to do. Just like the Kings of Israel would prepare for battle by getting their whole nation right with God, then they would go into battle and they would get victory. Well, I would shut down the Federal Reserve. I would shut down the IRS and I would withdraw from the United Nations, for starters. Then we ask God's blessing, and then we go and get victory over the Islamic terrorists who want to destroy us, because now we have God's favor and blessing. And I know how to go to Ahmadinejad and say [ FOREIGN ], come in here and sit. And I can go to to Omad in Israel and say [ FOREIGN ]. I can go to Brazil and say [ FOREIGN ]. The patron saint of all these lesser known candidates is Bill Gardner, New Hampshire secretary of state for the last three decades. It's important that, that this be an open process. Not exclusive. Not, having the Secretary of State just pick what big shots have the right to run and excluding other people. And the rigors of the campaign, if someone wants to do that, and try, we want to make it possible. Gardner continued the tradition this year of hosting a lesser- known candidates debate in Manchester. What would your [ NOISE ] administration do to address this issue? I believe that the principle problem is that we are exporting our jobs overseas as we have destroyed the American dream, when you can have, climb up the ladder. I look in Iraq and all I see is resolutions coming out of the United Nations. I think the United Nations is a useless organization when it comes to keeping the peace. I don't think America should be the world peacekeepers. Get our guys home. They spent worse than drunken sailors, except drunken sailors spend their own money. [ UNKNOWN ] Alright, now, I personally will veto every single spending bill I'm ashamed that President Bush didn't veto any spending bills the first six years he's in office. America has lost the glory because we have ignored the person of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. I think that all the candidates here have ideas that need to be heard, and I encourage all the people of New Hampshire not to lose faith in this process, because every single person has an opportunity to participate in a meaningful and valuable way. So the final question, what happened election day? Mad Dog Caligiuri had the best results. His 254 votes were more than even Senator Chris Dodd, though Dodd, in fairness, had already dropped out. But it's not bad for a guy who said who he just wanted to find just one New Hampshire voter crazy enough to vote for the Mad Dog. A lot more typical were the 11 votes for the woman who used to run as the hemp lady, Caroline Killeen. Michael Skok for his thousand dollars got 32 votes. Albert Howard came in thirteenth on the GOP ticket, but has raised over $ 50, 000 for a recount, because he thinks he actually came in fifth. And among the Republicans, the candidates who probably invested the most time and money, Cap Fendig and Dan Gilbert all got fewer votes than a guy named Vermin Supreme. So that's pretty depressing right? Well, maybe not. They may have underestimated how hard it would be to break out of the pack or get people to take them seriously. But I love the fact that they were out there trying, talking about their ideas, being such extreme believers in the fairness and openness of our political system. Is it, okay, are we rolling? Sure. 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