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## Video: Acting Immigration Chief Thomas Homan Blames Immigrant Parents for Border Separations

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_Published 2018-06-20. Asked whether he thought President Donald Trump’s “zero tolerance” immigration policy was inhumane, acting Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Thomas Homan responded that “it’s the law.”_


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## Transcript

[00:00] Is this new Zero Tolerance Policy that the President
[00:04] has supported, that the Attorney General announced,
[00:07] is it humane? I think, I
[00:11] think it's the law. As a law enforcer- It may be the law,
[00:14] it's the policy, but is it humane? I
[00:19] think this is the law and I'm a law enforcement officer I
[00:20] must follow the law. I think we take good care of these
[00:23] children, I think what's inhumane is parents that
[00:26] choose to put their kids in the hands of a smuggling
[00:28] organization A criminal smuggling organization had
[00:31] their kids smuggled in this country. That you mean,
[00:33] inhumane. [ CROSSTALK ] I don't have a parent there.
[00:37] These kids potentially Tom. I will never apologize for
[00:39] enforcing law. And the President of the United States is
[00:40] not gonna apologize for defending [ INAUDIBLE ] But
[00:41] you know these kids could [ INAUDIBLE ] they could
[00:42] have long time. If the parents don't wanna be
[00:44] separated fro their children, they enter through a port
[00:46] of entry through the legal system. When you wanna,
[00:48] when you chose intentionally to violate the laws of this
[00:51] country, enter illegally You put yourself in that position,
[00:54] but you put your child in that position. So if you want to
[00:57] blame- [ CROSSTALK ] some discretion before. If you
[00:58] want to blame somebody for separating families,
[01:00] blame the parents who choose to break the law. I
[01:02] understand what you're saying, but you did have
[01:04] discretion before April, and now the president says,
[01:07] the attorney general says, the secretary of homeland
[01:10] security says no more discretion. All of these children
[01:13] are going to be taken away from their parents. Officers
[01:15] still have discretion. There's a zero- tolerance policy
[01:17] but not every family is being separated. They're not
[01:20] being separated if there are small infants breast
[01:23] feeding. If there's medical issues. The only families
[01:27] we separate at a port of entry are those we can't prove
[01:30] a family relationship. And people posing as families,
[01:34] the fraud occuring with people saying I'm their parent,
[01:35] but they're not. These kids were actually victims of
[01:38] trafficking, that's up over 300 %.

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