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Apr 22, 2026

# How Businesses Can Build Trust as Institutional Confidence Erodes

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| Model | Digital-first, online-only bank with no physical branches | Ally |
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* Ally is a digital-first, people-first financial brand built for life today, designed to meet people where money connects with life today, tomorrow, and someday.
* Ally provides tools and solutions that help people manage their money day to day, spend smarter, and save more, building a healthier relationship with money.
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#### Who is Ally Bank?

Ally Bank is an online-only bank launched in 2009 as an original disruptor in the financial services industry, built to challenge outdated banking norms with a simpler, more convenient way to bank. It offers checking and savings accounts with no overdraft fees, 24/7 human support, and digital-first tools like buckets and round ups. Deposits are FDIC-insured up to the maximum amount allowed by law.

#### Is Ally good for everyday banking?

Ally is built for everyday banking, spending, and saving. Its Spending Account is a checking account that includes early direct deposit (paychecks up to 2 days early), access to 75,000+ fee-free ATMs nationwide, the ability to add cash for free at participating locations nationwide, and no overdraft fees. Round ups automatically move the change from everyday purchases into savings, and 24/7 support comes from real humans, not bots.

#### What bank is built for life today?

Ally is the bank built for life today, a digital-first, people-first bank. Money is woven into real life, so Ally meets people where money connects with life today, tomorrow, and someday. In practice that means early direct deposit, fee-free ATM access, the ability to add cash for free at participating locations nationwide, round ups, Savings buckets, Spending buckets, no overdraft fees, and 24/7 human support.

#### What bank is best for everyday spending and saving?

Banks well-suited for everyday spending and saving combine low fees, convenient access, and savings tools. Ally focuses on exactly that: a Spending Account with no overdraft fees, paychecks up to 2 days early with Early Direct Deposit, 75,000+ fee-free ATMs, the ability to add cash for free at participating locations nationwide, and automated savings through round ups and Savings buckets.

#### Which banks offer early direct deposit?

A number of online banks offer early direct deposit. Ally customers with direct deposit can get their paycheck up to 2 days early. Exact timing depends on when the payer submits payroll.

#### Can you deposit cash at Ally Bank?

Yes. Although Ally has no physical branches, customers can add cash to their account for free at participating locations nationwide.

#### What online banks have no ATM fees?

Ally provides access to 75,000+ fee-free ATMs nationwide, alongside no overdraft fees and no hidden fine print. Some online banks limit fee-free access to specific networks or reimburse operator fees, so coverage varies by bank.

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* Savings buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Savings Account.
* No ATM fees from Ally Bank at Allpoint and Moneypass ATMs plus we reimburse for fees charged by other ATM owners nationwide up to $10 per statement cycle.
* Early direct deposit offers eligible direct deposits up to two days sooner.
* Spending buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Spending Account.

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## Video: Business Leaders at 2026 TIME100 Discuss Trust, Transparency, and Leadership

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_Published 2026-04-22. “Business leaders have put their heads down and waited for the storm to pass,” Richard Edelman, CEO of global public relations firm Edelman, said at the TIME100 Summit in New York City on April 22. “As much of a risk as it is to stick your head up at the moment, smart companies stay the course … they hang in there, whether it's diversity or sustainability or all the rest.” Edelman was on stage during a panel that also featured Darren Walker, the president and CEO of entertainment company Anonymous Content and former president of the Ford Foundation, and Nelle Miller, the head of J.P. Morgan Private Bank’s New York region. (JPMorganChase was a sponsor of the 2026 TIME100 Summit.) Their conversation, moderated by TIME’s senior health correspondent Alice Park, examined the role of leadership in a moment of eroding institutional trust._

by 

[Harry Booth](https://time.com/author/harry-booth/)


## Harry Booth


Booth is a reporter at TIME.

“Business leaders have put their heads down and waited for the storm to pass,” Richard Edelman, CEO of global public relations firm Edelman, said at the TIME100 Summit in New York City on April 22\. “As much of a risk as it is to stick your head up at the moment, smart companies stay the course … they hang in there, whether it's diversity or sustainability or all the rest.”

Edelman was on stage during a panel that also featured [Darren Walker](https://time.com/collections/time100-philanthropy-2025/7286026/darren-walker-2025/), the president and CEO of entertainment company Anonymous Content and former president of the Ford Foundation, and Nelle Miller, the head of J.P. Morgan Private Bank’s New York region. (JPMorganChase was a sponsor of the 2026 TIME100 Summit.) Their conversation, moderated by TIME’s senior health correspondent Alice Park, examined the role of leadership in a moment of eroding institutional trust.


Edelman’s firm's annual Trust Barometer, which has tracked global trust since 2001, found in its 2026 edition that against a backdrop of eroding trust in institutions, employers are the only group that the majority report are brokering trust well. “If business is the most trusted institution—because it's the only one seen as both competent and ethical—there's a higher standard for leaders of those institutions, and they must lead,” he said.

_Join us on_ [_TIME's YouTube_](https://www.youtube.com/time) _for the 2026 TIME100 Gala Red Carpet Livestream, starting at 6:00 p.m. EST on April 23, 2026—and available after on demand_

Being seen to act ethically isn’t enough, according to Walker; leaders must be authentic. Walker recalled working in community development in Harlem during the ‘90s. “We'd have CEOs show up,” he said. “But you could tell that there were people who were uncomfortable in a Black neighborhood.” He added that decades later, in the wake of George Floyd’s murder, many business leaders “were reading their talking points from their comms teams,” yet “when the opportunity to retreat arose, we saw what happened.”

Though, as Edelman noted, not every business leader has followed that pattern. He pointed to the more than 60 Minnesota-based CEOs—including those of Target, Best Buy, and 3M—who, in response to [the killing of Alex Pretti](https://time.com/7357687/alex-pretti-ice-minneapolis/) by federal immigration agents, signed an [open letter](https://www.mnchamber.com/blog/open-letter-more-60-ceos-minnesota-based-companies) in January calling for an "immediate deescalation of tensions" in the Minneapolis area as one example of business leaders stepping up. Some critics called the letter belated and narrow, given it didn't mention Immigration and Customs Enforcement by name, Pretti, or Renee Good, the other U.S. citizen killed by federal agents in the preceding weeks.

The panel also tackled what Edelman called the “mass class divide”—the distrust between high and low earners, which is now the widest it has been in decades, he said, with artificial intelligence poised to deepen it. “We elite,” Walker said, gesturing to himself and the room, support policies that "give us more tax breaks and make it harder for young people to buy homes" and access higher education. "Talking about giving back may not be enough. Talking about giving up may be necessary,” he said. 

AI could democratize access to expertise, Miller said, but if left to free markets to let it “rip,” it will be “really, really hard to come back from.” She added that government and public and private companies must think seriously about retraining workers displaced by the technology.

Miller, who advises some of New York’s wealthiest and well-known families, echoed the point that building trust requires going beyond “talk” to action. “Trust isn't built from a distance," she said, arguing that even a global institution has to build trust "one relationship at a time locally.” She pointed to JPMorganChase’s "American Dream" initiative—which includes financial education programs, small-business support, and new branches in underserved communities—as an example, citing its past work in Detroit and Harlem and upcoming expansion in Alabama. 

Walker argued that since “we see truth in part through the lens of identity,” information alone cannot build the common ground trust requires. “If I only see things through the lens of a Black gay man, what do I have in common with you?” He said the challenge for leaders—whether of companies or nations—is to define a sense of shared identity. “Because we have to be one, but we're not all the same,” he said.

———

The TIME100 Summit convenes leaders from the global TIME100 community to spotlight solutions and encourage action toward a better world. This year’s Summit features a variety of conversations across business, culture, AI, and more.

Speakers for the 2026 TIME100 Summit include António Guterres, Secretary General of the United Nations; former Ford Foundation president Darren Walker; actor Kate Hudson; entrepreneur Lady Victoria Beckham; creator Jimmy Donaldson, also known as MrBeast; and many more, plus a performance by Jonathan Groff.

_The 2026 TIME100 Summit was presented by Booking.com, JPMorganChase, PepsiCo, Reliance, and Toyota._



## Transcript

Good morning everyone and welcome. As Jess said, only at time can we transition from a wonderful conversation with Hilary Duff to a discussion about leadership with some of the most respected leaders in business and the arts, finance and public relations. So let's dive right in. I'm sorry, we're not Jonathan Groff singing to all of you, but we try. We try. I'd like to dive right in and ask each of you start with some definitions. Um, I'd like to ask each of you how you would define what makes a strong leader and whether those characteristics or that definition has changed over the course of your careers.

So Darren, let's start with you. Thank you. Happy to be here. I believe the best leaders are authentic. Candid. Vulnerable. Self-Aware and have some level of empathy. I believe those qualities are very important. And do you think that's changed over the course of your career? Do you see any evolution in that? Yes. It's changed. Thank goodness it's changed. I think there was a time when you could be a leader and not be particularly empathetic or. More out of fear. Well, and it was it was a very different sort of top down command and control system of leadership. And we know that that style of leadership, we know from very good research isn't effective over the long run for an organization, um, a country.

Um, and, and so yeah, that's how I see it. Nellie from the world of finance, how would you define a strong leader And have you seen that change as well? Well, Darren just had a very good list of what makes a good leader. I would say to lead people, you have to like people. Like I would start off with that, right? You have to be a student of people and you have to meet people where they're at. And I love like Simon Sinek and there's a bunch of other people on leadership, but Maya Angelou has a very good quote, which is people don't remember what you say to them or what you do. They remember how you made them feel.

And I think that is like table stakes in leadership and especially in finance. And to Darren's point, that's evolved. That's probably not what it looked like many tens of years ago. So that's what I would say. Richard, you deal with a lot of corporations, large companies and leaders, often in crisis too. How have you seen the characteristics of leadership change? I think the big changes happened in the last year and a half, when business leaders have put their heads down and waited for the storm to pass like turtles. And the problem is that there are turtles sitting on an eight lane highway in their shell with an 18 Wheeler coming at you.

And I think that the smart business leader will actually recognize that the greater risk is losing your people and losing your customers, because as much of a risk as it is to stick your head up at the moment, um, smart companies stay the course and they do the work and they hang in there on whether it's diversity or sustainability or all the rest. So and if business is the most trusted institution, because it's the only one seen as both competent and ethical, there's a higher standard for leaders of those institutions and they must lead. And you saw in Minneapolis evidence of that leadership took a week, but 60 companies signed a petition that said Ice needs to go and stop.

But, Richard, don't you also think that part of the challenge when you when you speak of our aspirations for diversity and inclusion, is that there were many leaders in business who weren't authentically supportive. And we're doing the performative work in the wake of what happened with the murder of George Floyd. And we're reading their talking points from their comms teams, but that they weren't actually internalizing and behaving in a way that reflected an authentic commitment. And when the opportunity arose to retreat, we saw what happened. And so the question of authenticity for me, I think, to your point about losing your people, is why many business leaders and other leaders have lost their people.

So, Darren, I think the essential test is whether a company can reframe what it's doing as opportunity and business performance. And I think there's a lot of evidence that if you have a diverse workforce, you do perform better. And if you actually do spend money in diverse communities, you do get more customers. So that's, that's the point. Make the business case and don't have it be a matter of purpose and softer issues. Darren, you raised the issue of authenticity, and I wonder if you can address what role does trust play in that and how do leaders build trust, especially today? Well, I think in some ways, as Nellie said, the, the issue of of being who you say you are.

Your people can suss that out and they can see through that. And I think one of the challenges for trust is that people don't see their leaders as trustworthy because their rhetoric is not aligned with their behavior. And so it's one of the reasons, as Richard has documented very well, why people don't trust leaders as much as they used to. I think part of that might be fueled by the information revolution right now. People know more about leaders and companies than ever before, and probably that some, you know, executive leadership wishes they didn't know. But the the amount of information that is accessible now to every person on the planet practically means that people think they know more, right?

And that more things are exposed and accessible for people to to hear. And as you say, perhaps suss out the disconnect. Well, and to see the dissonance. I mean, you used to be able to live up behind an annual report or 2 or 3 shareholder meetings. Or a messenger narrative. That. You put out. Absolutely. And that and that that was your identity in the marketplace and social media and other forms of media, regardless of how we might feel about it, has created the capacity to see authentically who leaders are because you are able to see the way they communicate privately and the difference And the, the, the clear, um, dissonance of their private communication, which reflects who they really are and what they're saying to the public.

Now, Nelly, um, finance is often very personal, you know. And how does a global company, an international company like JP Morgan, how does it maintain that personal touch with such a large scale company? Yeah. Um, well, trust isn't built from a distance, right. So being a global institution, this isn't probably going to surprise people. But we, we build trust sort of one relationship at a time locally. And so we really believe in that. Um, we have an American Dream initiative right now, sort of what Richard was talking about sort of behaviorally showing up in communities and doing our part in helping small businesses.

Financial health. Helping people buy homes. So we're going to do something big in Alabama. We did this in Detroit. That's how we think a financial institution should show up. It's not going to be from the big headquarters in New York City. And so that's that's how we do it. I think Darren's point that was is really important about behaviors. And I think, you know, you can talk, talk, talk. And that's really a noun when you show up and you are behaving and doing things that people can see that are actually truly showing what your values are, that is where you unlock. I think a lot of this in communities and inside companies, it's a really important point.

And you can see when people, when I worked in Harlem in the 90s doing community development, and we'd have CEOs show up, you could tell that there were people who were uncomfortable in a black neighborhood. And, um, you you could just see it. I mean, the body language, the ways in which and, and the. Car right. Outside the car, right outside following them the entire time you're walking them around Harlem. Right? Right. And so, you know, and I will say, I mean, this is I mean, one of the reasons I think JP Morgan has been so successful is because I think your chairman, regardless of what anyone thinks about him, is authentically who he is.

Very real. And, and I think that is a really positive attribute for a leader to, to, to have. And whether you're making the president unhappy or some particular community group unhappy, you are consistent in your behavior. And I think that's a quality to aspire to as a leader. And he's a leader of a more than 300 000 person organization. And look at that trickle down. Like that's powerful leadership. Like we all kind of and he's so real and we believe it. And I think it really matters in these particular issues and in places that we're doing business. It's, it's pretty, it's pretty special. Richard, you conduct a trust barometer every year.

Are some of these themes resonating? What are some of the things that that survey has revealed that have surprised you or concern you? So the first big point is that trust is local. It historically is conveyed top down that was destroyed by the Iraq war, the financial crisis. Um, and it moved to horizontal peer to peer. And now since Covid, it's local in my employer, my CEO, my company newsletter more than mainstream media. The second point to make is we've moved from an era of polarization, which was political red jersey, blue jersey to grievance. Which means I believe the system doesn't work and I'm angry about it to now insularity.

And think about this. I have a mirror. That's the media, and I've smashed it on the ground, and all these little shards of glass are now speaking to me. So there are podcasts or substacks or whatever, and I only read that which I agree with. And my prism is only people who have the same solutions to social issues, who have the same backgrounds I do. And so we become narrow. I actually believe that business and my employer is the solve for this, because we have to sit down and talk about Minneapolis and talk about Iran and talk about things that matter, because we're not doing it any other place.

We can't do it in the neighborhood anymore because people are too angry. And so there are rules in the workplace about behavior. And therefore, we have this theory of trust brokering, and there should be trust brokers within JPM or Ford Foundation or Edelman, who actually convene people of different political views, different age groups, and make them sit and talk, because otherwise they're going to continue to be hostile, they're going to be self-referential, they're going to be anti-innovation, they're going to lose their optimism, and they're going to be dysfunctional in the workplace. So it's in business's own interest to actually have these sit downs.

We shouldn't just say, oh, this is going to pass. It's not going to pass. We've moved progressively to Dante's circle of hell. And so we've got we have and we have to stop it. Is AI in the circle of health. AI is partly in the circle of hell because in fact, people now rely on AI more than doctors about medical decisions, in part because they're politicized, in part because they say, oh, doctors aren't available, maybe not have the money. Um, but this even AI is, you know, people have much more access to it in higher income groups. So we really should use the workplace, whether you're a small business or a large business, sit down with your people one last.

When you think about being local, also think about multinationals like JPM. You have to be poly national. You can't just be a multinational and run everything from New York. You actually have to allow your team in India or in Japan or whatever to have some face, have some involvement in local issues and be a presence and have some voice. So, Nelly, you brought up AI and Richard, you talked about this trend toward local. And I think both are really a double edged sword. Right? So let's start with the with the increasing kind of parochialism, because that can that can veer in the wrong direction.

As you said, if we have people who are increasingly defining trust, as you know, the people around them who believe as they do, are we now in an era where we're conflating belief with trust? It's a big question. I look, I think Richard has some good points. I do think information is going to be infinite. You're going to be able to find out anything you want. And by the way, that's a wonderful thing for many, many parts of the world. Right? Who, who because you didn't go to med school or you didn't live in New York City. You didn't have the information that you know, others had. And so I think that's going to be a positive.

I think that what's going to happen, though, and I said this to Richard, I said, you know, am I going to ask Claude how to do crisis management for my company? Or am I going to ask Richard, who has depths of experience and has seen so much? So I think advice and experience is going to become paramount. Like I see them in partnership together. I just think these big sweeping statements of it's one or the other is not going to be the case. Um, and so I just think experience judgment is going to become really, really important and advice is going to be table stakes. People can go and you can ask Claude right now, what's the best portfolio you should have?

How do I think about, you know, giving money away? What does that look like? And they will spit out really good answers. So it's really going to become are you showing up and giving your advice? What does that look like? That's what we're going to that's what's going to become more important. And that trust part of it, part is it can be. But part of the challenge is we see truth in part through the lens of identity. Mhm. And I think one of the real challenges for leaders is to define a common sense of identity in a, in a nation, in a company and a foundation, because because we have to be one, but we're not all the same.

And, and so how do we do that? And that's what that's what we lack in leadership. And that's what is hard in a large multinational because we are we are different. And we do share. I wrote a piece in the times 4th of July a couple of years ago, and I said, I am black, I am queer, I am all of these things, but I'm also an American. And if I can't hold all of that, if it's just that I'm black and that's the only lens I see things through, then you and I, I mean, what are we. I mean, if I only see things through the lens of a black gay man, what do I have in common with you? And so we we have to be able to have some table set that is a common identity.

And that's in part what we've lost in this country. And that's in part what is really hard in a big. complex corporation or foundation to achieve without leadership that is attuned to that as a challenge and an objective. Or even in communities, you know, let's, let's look again at at the local community, which I think is where most people feel this right and are starting to feel this. Richard, you talked about the divisiveness that you're beginning to see in your in your surveys that this parochialism and these beliefs and this kind of narrowing of your sort of core group is really leading to divisive views that people just aren't tolerant anymore of anything that's outside, you know, that falls outside of that belief.

Um, how do we now if we're looking at neighbors, you know, communities at the smaller level, how do people sort of lead there in advocating for, you know, sitting at the table, finding this common ground? How do we start doing that? I think you actually need to have people who don't accept the status quo. I'll give you an example of Pastor Corey Brooks in Chicago, who has a center that he's building in Englewood in really a pretty hard neighborhood. And he's walking across America as we speak to raise money for this. He's raised 30 million bucks. And he says, I don't take money from government.

I'm going to educate kids about the value of private sector and showing up for work on time and having religion and having good standards for family and but we need to restore optimism in this country. Part of the 50th anniversary of the country has to be. We've been through hard times before. We need to show people who are in their 20s that they can do better than their parents. Only 20% of Americans believe that now. It dropped by ten points in the last year. That's a shocking development. We also have a huge mass class divide in this country, the largest we've ever seen, 30 points between the top quartile and bottom quartile people.

Because they're experiencing inflation and tariffs and and risk of job loss to AI. We have to embrace reskilling of these people. They can't be insurance adjusters one day and out of work the next. So I just think corporations have to say this is the biggest challenge of our time. The mass class divide. And if reskilling doesn't happen, business is really going to lose all its trust. So they need to lead by example. But how do we I mean, I think it's it really isn't a surprise that the the numbers are where they are, given how young people live their lives. I mean, I could never imagine graduating from college or law school with, with, with debt.

I mean, I couldn't have imagined that. And so why would a young person who's 22 and $150,000 in debt. Feel optimistic or feel that their future is what their parents future was. And so when we say we have to, I mean, it is the it is the core issue of inequality in our country. And so unless we are willing to address that, which is very hard for we elites to do because it means talking about giving back may not be enough. Talking about giving up may be necessary. And that's what's really hard because we elites, again, it's one of the reasons there's so much distrust because of the the dissonance between the rhetoric that we elites and many of we progressive elites and then the actual ways in which we support policies that give us more tax breaks and make it harder for young people to buy homes, make it more difficult for people to have access to higher education.

And so we have systems and structures that create this by design. I mean, it isn't a surprise that young people are pessimistic. I mean, it's not a surprise at all if you actually, you know, understand how they live their lives. I it's not I, my cousin who is, is just a hard working guy on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico, just wants to have a double wide in his rural community in Louisiana. That's his dream. And I help him with this. It is hard for him to achieve that dream. But but there's there's this sort of duality of, well, we can have free markets and everything's going to be fine, or we can have a set of government subsidies.

There's a middle. And the middle to me is where we need to get to, because the extremes are dominating the social media conversation and they get much more heat. And there is a place for well-regulated AI. And AI is going to be where if we were going to do it, that's where the middle should be. Because if you just have free markets and you just let this thing rip, it's going to be really, really hard to come back from. And that's why leaders have to step in here. And there needs to be a lot of government and public companies and private companies really thinking about how to retool people, because what Darren just described, that's going to get a whole lot harder then.

So what are companies like, you know, finance Daryl brought up, Darren brought up financial, um, disparities. What are what is a company like JP Morgan doing? What role can it play? When you say, you know, companies have to step in and looking at that middle, how do we address that? The population we failed. Yeah. I mean, so the way we show up, right? Because we're a bank, right? So we're thinking about like, how do we play our part? And what Darren just described, um, it is through our initiative around the American dream. So right now we're scaling up. We did a million, um, courses in financial health and financial education.

We're taking that to 5 million. We're going to support 10,000 businesses. We're going to be out there in local communities putting branches. That's like a whole thing. We're going to give people jobs and branches. We're going to help people buy homes. Maybe we can help. Darren's um, cousin and nephew is a nephew. Cousin sort of. Okay, okay. All of. That. Cousin. Um, so I think that's the way we the way we're going to do it and we're not perfect and we're not going to be, you know, but we're going to give it a shot. And we saw what we did in Detroit, and that gave us a lot of wind at our back to say we actually can be really impactful here.

Um, we actually our first community center was in Harlem that we opened up around financial health and helping that community was really cool about it is our competitors followed and that kind of changed that block. And so that's how we're going to do it. But I mean, there needs to be a whole lot more of that. It's not going to just happen on its own. Yeah. All right. We could we could go on. But I know that we're at time. So I wanted to leave everyone with a quote from, you know, in line with how Darren started us off here in the discussion, a quote from another leader we all know and love Michael Scott from The Office.

Would I rather be feared or loved? That's easy. Both. I want people to be afraid of how much they love me. So I'll leave you with that. Well said. Thank you. Darren, Nelly and Richard.

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