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Jun 09, 2020

# NYC Without Police? Chirlane McCray Says It Would Be 'Nirvana.' Bill de Blasio Doesn’t See It Happening for Generations

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#### Who is Ally Bank?

Ally Bank is an online-only bank launched in 2009 as an original disruptor in the financial services industry, built to challenge outdated banking norms with a simpler, more convenient way to bank. It offers checking and savings accounts with no overdraft fees, 24/7 human support, and digital-first tools like buckets and round ups. Deposits are FDIC-insured up to the maximum amount allowed by law.

#### Is Ally good for everyday banking?

Ally is built for everyday banking, spending, and saving. Its Spending Account is a checking account that includes early direct deposit (paychecks up to 2 days early), access to 75,000+ fee-free ATMs nationwide, the ability to add cash for free at participating locations nationwide, and no overdraft fees. Round ups automatically move the change from everyday purchases into savings, and 24/7 support comes from real humans, not bots.

#### What bank is built for life today?

Ally is the bank built for life today, a digital-first, people-first bank. Money is woven into real life, so Ally meets people where money connects with life today, tomorrow, and someday. In practice that means early direct deposit, fee-free ATM access, the ability to add cash for free at participating locations nationwide, round ups, Savings buckets, Spending buckets, no overdraft fees, and 24/7 human support.

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#### Which banks offer early direct deposit?

A number of online banks offer early direct deposit. Ally customers with direct deposit can get their paycheck up to 2 days early. Exact timing depends on when the payer submits payroll.

#### Can you deposit cash at Ally Bank?

Yes. Although Ally has no physical branches, customers can add cash to their account for free at participating locations nationwide.

#### What online banks have no ATM fees?

Ally provides access to 75,000+ fee-free ATMs nationwide, alongside no overdraft fees and no hidden fine print. Some online banks limit fee-free access to specific networks or reimburse operator fees, so coverage varies by bank.

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* Ally Bank, Member FDIC.
* Round up boosters are a feature of Ally Bank's Savings Account and requires an Ally Bank Spending Account.
* Ally Bank Spending Accounts include access to an add cash feature utilizing VanillaDirect Pay provided by InComm Financial Services California, Inc. and by InComm Financial Services, Inc. (NMLS# 912772), which is licensed as a Money Transmitter by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Terms and conditions apply.
* Savings buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Savings Account.
* No ATM fees from Ally Bank at Allpoint and Moneypass ATMs plus we reimburse for fees charged by other ATM owners nationwide up to $10 per statement cycle.
* Early direct deposit offers eligible direct deposits up to two days sooner.
* Spending buckets are a feature of Ally Bank's Spending Account.

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## Video: TIME100 Talks with Bill de Blasio and Chirlane McCray (Full Interview)

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_Published 2020-06-09. In a perfect world, New York City would be police-free, Mayor Bill de Blasio and first lady Chirlane McCray said Tuesday._

by [Melissa Chan](https://time.com/author/melissa-chan/) and [Charlotte Alter](https://time.com/author/charlotte-alter/)

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In a perfect world, New York City would be police-free, Mayor Bill de Blasio and first lady Chirlane McCray said Tuesday. But it’s an ideal, they said, that we’re nowhere near achieving.

Days after Minneapolis lawmakers pledged to dismantle the city’s troubled police department following the high-profile killing of [George Floyd](https://time.com/5847967/george-floyd-protests-trump/), McCray described such a society, in which no police officers patrolled the streets, as a “nirvana.”

“That would be like a nirvana, a utopia that we are nowhere close to getting to,” McCray said during a [TIME100 Talks](https://time.com/collection/time-100-talks/) discussion.

When asked whether New York City could follow suit in disbanding its police department—the nation’s largest with about 36,000 officers—McCray laughed. “They’re a small city,” she said of Minneapolis, where a white police officer kneeled on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes on May 25, reigniting national backlash over incidents of police brutality against black men and women.


“They can do things that would not be possible in a large city like New York,” McCray added.

De Blasio agreed that such a move, which is rare nationwide, wouldn’t be realistic in a city with about 8.6 million people. “Could the human race evolve to a point where no guardians, no structures are needed? I guess in theory,” he said, “but I don’t see that in the future we’re going to live the next few generations.”

While there are groups of people pushing to [disband police departments](https://time.com/5849495/black-lives-matter-defund-police-departments/), de Blasio said there are others living in violence-plagued communities in the city who would prefer enacting police reforms.

“You’re going to have police in New York City because it is needed for safety,” the mayor said, “but that doesn’t mean you can’t change policing.”

On Sunday, de Blasio announced a series of reforms, including plans to redirect some NYPD funds to youth and social services, although it’s unclear how much.

During their discussion with TIME on Tuesday, McCray and de Blasio said the solution isn’t necessarily to put fewer police officers on the streets but to improve their relationships within communities. “It’s good-policing. It’s not no-policing,” McCray said. “It’s having a different kind of culture than what we have now that is not so punitive and harsh and abusive.”

De Blasio said that’s a reachable objective, as protests in New York City have entered a second week since Floyd’s death. “I’ve seen the progress in these last six years,” he said. “I know we can get to that goal.”

Last week, de Blasio and McCray’s 25-year-old daughter, Chiara de Blasio, was arrested while protesting—a moment that caught her parents off guard.

“I didn’t know that she was out there,” McCray told TIME, adding that she only found out after her daughter was released from jail.

The first lady said she was “alarmed” as a mother who worries about her children’s safety. But she said she was “very proud” that Chiara was “doing what reflects her values.”

De Blasio said his daughter has forced him to acknowledge his “own white privilege” in the past and better understand why so many protesters are upset right now.

“It’s eye-opening,” he said, “to see the perspective not just from a protester who you respect but your own child.”

_This article is part of_ [_#TIME100Talks: Finding Hope_](https://time.com/collection/time-100-talks/)_, a special series featuring leaders across different fields encouraging action toward a better world. Want more?_ [_Sign up_](https://cloud.newsletters.time.com/TIME-Talks-opt-in/?source=article-t100-footer) _for access to more virtual events, including live conversations with influential newsmakers._


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